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SNP a "progressive" party?
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:31 pm
by David Johnson
The last few days we have heard Nicola Sturgeon banging on about the SNP being a progressive party, bolder and braver than Labour and shaking up the Westminster establishment.
A bit like an early 2010 Nick Clegg in knickers.
Can someone who lives the other side of Hadrian's Wall (to use Farage's appalling geographical knowledge) explain to me what has been "progressive" about the SNP's government of Scotland in the last 8 years?
Re: SNP a "progressive" party?
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:55 pm
by number 6
As long as they help keep the tories out i will be happy David.
Anything Can Happen
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:24 am
by planeterotica
Anything can happen, remember 1992 when Labour were ahead in the polls and Kinnock held a pre-election celebration only to be defeated by Major.
Re: Anything Can Happen
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:09 am
by Arginald Valleywater
She is offering a hand of friendship to the rest of the UK. I wasn't aware we had fell out? Played two Golf matches in the last month against Scottish teams. They hate McSalmond and his bitch. They refer to the SNP as the Scottish Nazi Party. Dangerous and deluded woman.
Number 6
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:37 pm
by David Johnson
Agreed.
I don't see the SNP being anywhere near as negative as Cameron and John Major etc. etc. are making out.
If Labour form a minority government on the grounds that they are the only party that can run a government and get business done, then for the SNP to vote against the Queens Speech or major budgets would be like saying "We do not want a Labour government. We would prefer the Tories to have a go or another election which the Tories might win.
Neither result in voting against a Labour government would do much for the SNP street cred.
Argie
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:39 pm
by David Johnson
"I wasn't aware we had fell out? "
You wouldn't say that if you had been listening to every Tory senior politician and their sycophantic newspaper barons e.g. the Daily Mail "Sturgeon is the most dangerous woman in Britain" spiel.
Re: Argie
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:33 pm
by Arginald Valleywater
She is the most dangerous woman in Britain because she wants to destroy The Union and create her own little empire. I just wonder who is backing her. China or Russia?
Re: Argie
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:48 pm
by David Johnson
"I just wonder who is backing her. China or Russia?"
Ah yes, the Reds under the bed story. Long time since I heard that one. Mind you, I have seen Nicola Sturgeon wearing red dresses........
Whatever you think about the SNP policies Sturgeon has more spunk than the entire Tory cabinet put together. I particularly liked her riposte to the Daily Mail's front page headline that she was the most dangerous woman in Britain, stating that it was the nicest thing the Mail had ever said about her.
Re: Argie
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:42 am
by Arginald Valleywater
You are blinkered DJ. She isn't even an MP yet expects Parliament to bow down and worship at her feet. If she wants to influence life across the whole UK then she needs to become an MP, not pontificate and cat call from her own little kingdom in Holyrood. The SNP need to create the roll of Parliamentary Leader who will then be entitled to negotiate with the PM. Sturgeon has no right to even be in Westminster.
Re: Argie
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:00 pm
by David Johnson
"You are blinkered DJ"
Oh no, I'm not.
"She isn't even an MP yet expects Parliament to bow down and worship at her feet."
Oh no she doesn't. She is explaining SNP policy.
" If she wants to influence life across the whole UK then she needs to become an MP, not pontificate and cat call from her own little kingdom in Holyrood."
Oh no, she doesn't. She is the leader of a political party which looks likely to become the third largest in Westminster and she is explaining the policy of the party she leads.
"The SNP need to create the roll of Parliamentary Leader who will then be entitled to negotiate with the PM."
Oh no they don't. That role already exists and was fulfilled by Angus Robertson.
"Sturgeon has no right to even be in Westminster."
Given she is not standing in the Westminster parliament election, that is a statement of the bleeding obvious.