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McSturgeon
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:35 pm
by Arginald Valleywater
Correct me if I am wrong but didn't Scotland just vote against independence? Has she no other ideas?
Re: McSturgeon
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:37 pm
by spider
Yep that's correct, but my memory is that they only voted against independence after all three Westminster party leaders had scuttled up there and promised them the earth.
Promises that have now been quietly shelved.
I suppose she sees her job as not allowing people to forget the promises made and ensure their delivery.
Re: McSturgeon
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:46 pm
by Arginald Valleywater
She is lives in Cloud Cuckoo Land. The vote wasn't even close. Scotland is a great nation and deserves better as First Minister than McSalmond's PA. Hoots Mon where is my Chick Murray DVD?
Re: McSturgeon
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:00 am
by David Johnson
What do you expect? The raison d'etre for the SNP as with Plaid Cymru is independence. So expecting the SNP to pack it in for the "generation" Salmond was talking about prior to the last vote, is a tad unlikely. You may as well ask the Pope to give up on Catholicism.
I note however, that despite continuing to bang on about independence, the SNP haven't come any closer to answering the questions they spent years avoiding e.g. if Westminster refuses a currency union, what do we do? under what terms and how are we going to join the EU etc etc.
I also suspect that there wasn't much debate at their conference about the oil price heading south.
Re: McSturgeon
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:44 am
by spider
?The vote wasn't even close.?
Well the turn-out was 85% and 45% voted yes.
That means not quite half the population were so fed-up with the status quo they wanted out.
There are only four cities in Scotland. Two of them had majority yes votes.
This was achieved after the three Westminster party leaders, most of the Cabinet and Shadow Cabinet had scuttled up there like headless chickens and promised them a version of Devo Max (which was even on the agenda a few weeks before) if only they would please, please, please vote No.
That?s not quite half the population, who weren?t being oppressed, who weren?t involved in a civil war (like Ukraine for instance) who wanted out.
Nearly half the population are willing to risk leaving the security of being in the UK because they are so pissed-off with the status quo. I hardly think that?s a ringing endorsement.
I have a different view on ?wasn't even close.?
Mr V will have a lot in common with the SNP if Labour win the next election.
i.e. both being so pissed-off with the Westminster Government that they want out of the UK.