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I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned on the forum



Apparently, the figures given in the report into child sex abuse cases in Rotherham by Pakistani gangs are an underestimate because they do not include potentially large numbers of Pakistani girls who were abused by the gangs.

This is an inconvenient truth for the likes of Sam Slater who believes that these men have been influenced by their evil religion, Islam which allows them to abuse non-Muslim girls e.g.

"No mention of rape in the commandments and 'rape' in the Quran isn't even a word because unmarried non-Muslim women can be taken as sex slaves"

Unlike Mr Slater with the anti-Islam views that only an EDF supporter or in his case, lapsed believer can have, I have always regarded these Pakistanis as criminal scumbags who are about as religious as I am and are motivated by pure evil rather than any religious adherence.

This news report appears to back up my views.

My view is that these men do this because many had very uncivilised upbringings in remote areas of Pakistan, come to Britain and don't respect women in the way women are respected and viewed in the west. The controversial commentator Pat Condell, who does all those videos on YouTube, said "Pakistan: a country where men are men, and women are cattle". If you bring people raised in an environment like that into a society where the opposite is the view of the majority people, then it will cause problems. Many Pakistani's living in the west respect women, and have adapted to western ways - some haven't however. It made me angry, and still does, how so much of this was allowed to go on because the authorities feared they might be called 'racist' if they intervened. Vast numbers of girls were sacrificed in the name of political correctness.

"It made me angry, and still does, how so much of this was allowed to go on because the authorities feared they might be called 'racist' "

Agreed Max.

"My view is that these men do this because many had very uncivilised upbringings in remote areas of Pakistan"

Two points:

1. My understanding is that many of those convicted were born in the UK.
2. This argument clearly doesn't apply to the child abuse carried out by non-Muslims born in the UK and family members.

A criminal is a criminal is a criminal, no matter where you come from.

Enoch was right all along.

Wonder if it didn't get mentioned because they knew you would retort with your simplistic bollocks and your pathetic attempts to brand anyone who doesn't support your naive views as racist....

Personally I believe that they did it because they are the criminal scumbags, you see them as, whether or not they got away with it for because of fears about the race card being played etc. for so long will possibly only be determined by the enquiry.

I say possibly because it should have been determined after Rochdale and 'enquires' by Keith Vaz but it didn't then, even if it did trigger a few alarm bells, with appropriate steps being put into place to protect those vulnerable.

The Harriet and David types preferred to chose to deflect because it may upset the minorities and with the election coming up I can't see the safe Labour vote being challenged, something they wouldn't do even if page one of the report said in big bold red letters that these cunts are raping our kids

Some of the abusers were born elsewhere, some were born here - I agree. Those born here most likely had very unwestern upbringings, even though they were brought up in the west, in a very sheltered closed-off family and community. There are nasty abusers from every race and community - there are just more, percentage-wise, from the Pakistani community in Britain. As a percentage of the men in these towns, the abusers represent a significant chuck of the community. In other towns and in other communities, the abusers, be them white, black or whatever , only represent a very small chunk of that community in that town. There is a genuine problem in the Pakistani community in Britain with grooming and abusing young girls, as all this shows.

Multiculturism is a sham. Whilst these animals live in the UK they don't adhere to our laws on equality, decency or freedom. Almost as many child abusers as the Catholic Church's upper echelons.

"There are nasty abusers from every race and community - there are just more, percentage-wise, from the Pakistani community in Britain."

"As a percentage of the men in these towns, the abusers represent a significant chuck of the community. In other towns and in other communities, the abusers, be them white, black or whatever , only represent a very small chunk of that community in that town."

Have you any evidence to back all that up?

"There is a genuine problem in the Pakistani community in Britain with grooming and abusing young girls, as all this shows."

There is a genuine problem. But there was/is also a genuine problem with child abuse among the Catholic clergy community.

There is/has been clearly a genuine problem with child abuse amongst workers in children's homes and I cannot recall seeing a single Pakistani convicted in that area.

"Wonder if it didn't get mentioned because they knew you would retort with your simplistic bollocks and your pathetic attempts to brand anyone who doesn't support your naive views as racist...."

Ok, in short you generally disagree with me. Note you are the one who seems to be keen to deal with the topic via insults. As per usual, I will ignore the insults and try to get to the nub.

"Personally I believe that they did it because they are the criminal scumbags, you see them as, "

You agree with me.

"whether or not they got away with it for because of fears about the race card being played etc. for so long will possibly only be determined by the enquiry."

This has already been clarified as part of the Jay report that race did play a part in a reluctance to prosecute. Shameful!

"I say possibly because it should have been determined after Rochdale and 'enquires' by Keith Vaz but it didn't then, even if it did trigger a few alarm bells, with appropriate steps being put into place to protect those vulnerable.
The Harriet and David types preferred to chose to deflect because it may upset the minorities and with the election coming up I can't see the safe Labour vote being challenged, something they wouldn't do even if page one of the report said in big bold red letters that these cunts are raping our kids"

To repeat the Jay report did state that there was an additional reluctance to prosecute because of the race of those accused.

The Labour party responded to the report by suspending four councillors who were members of the party and forcing out Shaun Wright who was police and crime commissioner and a former member of the Labour party.

Regarding evidence to back it up, it has been stated recently, as we know, that 1400 cases of child grooming and abuse took place in Rotherham. Most, if not all the abusers were Pakistani men. I don't know how many Pakistani men there are in Rotherham but that is a percentage of the community that is quite high - higher than for example the number of white, black, or whatever other race, of people there are who do it in other geographical areas.

There is certainly a problem in the Catholic church, just like there is and has been in childrens homes and in English boarding schools. Most of those perpertrators are white, but would represent a tiny proportion of the community from which they come from. Not a tiny proportion of priests, care workers, or public school masters, but a tiny proportion of the total population of people from that ethnic group from the town or city from where they come from.