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David Johnson
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Post by David Johnson »

There are a couple of by-elections taking place on Thursday. One in Heywood and Middleton which was held by Labour and one in Clacton where the sitting MP Douglas Carswell has defected from the Tories to UKIP.

I suspect that UKIP will do very,very well in these elections. Why?

Well we have Ed Miliband who forgot to mention the deficit in his conference speech.

Then we have the Tories with George Osborne emphasising how much work needs to be done on cost cutting on the Monday of the Tory conference, while Cameron throws out billions of uncosted tax cuts on the Wednesday like a drunk who has stumbled into a Bank of England vault.

And finally we have Cleggie slagging off the Tory government for hammering the poor and being obsessed with destroying the welfare state. Only problem is that the Lib Dems are in government with the Tories and supported the overwhelming majority of their working poor hammering and public sector cost cutting measures.

And then we have UKIP who have no policies other than getting out of the EU and controlling immigration and no Westminster MPs. So my guess is that because they are so anti-politics and tailor their message to the constituency i.e. they are left wing in a Labour seat and right wing in a Tory seat they will hold the balance of power in a hung parliament next year.

Nigel Farage - Deputy Prime Minister anyone?
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Can you imagne if UKIP ever got near power. Bye bye NHS,bye bye any rights for workers, bye bye immigration. What a stinking backward thinking shithole we would become if those nutters ever got anywhere near power.
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Post by David Johnson »

Well the most recent Yougov poll put UKIP on 13% and the Lib Dems on 7% so on that basis UKIP are the third party in British politics.

So in the event of a hung parliament, it is going to be interesting to see what coalition might emerge. But if Farage polls in May as the current opinion polls suggest, he could well be making all sorts of policy demands as a prerequisite for entering a coalition with say, the Tories.
Arginald Valleywater
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Post by Arginald Valleywater »

I hope UKIP will get in and give the 2 main parties a boot up the backside. I no longer consider the Glib Dums to be a valid party. However I am not sure if they can swing enough voters to claim seats.
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Argie

Post by David Johnson »

Well, UKIP won the European elections, the first time in modern history that a national election was not won by Labour or Tories.

So it is all about credibility as to whether or not that translates into Westminster seats. Carswell looks odds-on to win in Clacton for UKIP which could be a game changer.
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Post by Arginald Valleywater »

We live in interesting times......Cameron and Wallace are sleepwalking their way through leadership. Both need a boot up the arse to make them listen to the electorate and not their Oxbridge educated "advisers" aka lackeys. Plus bets been taken on Alan Johnson as an alternative Labor leader....fat too decent a bloke to do the job...
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Wallace?
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Post by Essex Lad »

Not really worth pointing out that Ukip is opposed to untrammelled immigration - managed immigration whereby we know who is in the country is fine and indeed necessary many would argue. But wait - what about the three million or so unemployed Brits? Couldn't they do the jobs done by the immigrants? I don't think too many of the immigrants working in restaurants, building sites, driving cabs and the like were scientists or surgeons in their home countries... so it is not as if they are bringing in a huge skill set.
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Me and John live in Clacton but have had to vote by post as we are in New York for another 2 weeks, it will be the start of major defections to UKIP when D. Carswell easily wins his seat.

Other MPS will join him as he is a respected guy and its a major blow for his former Conservative College's.

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Post by David Johnson »

As in Wallace and Gromit. I wonder if Clem Attlee would have got elected these days. He wasn't exactly a looker.

Personally, I couldn't care less what politicians look like. It is all about the policies and on that basis give me "Wallace" rather than Cameron any time.
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