Scotland results

[David Johnson]

First result in. thank Christ, I was beginning to fall asleep with all the time filling chat.

Clackmannanshire which was expected to vote Yes has voted No in line with the Yougov poll tonight i.e. 54% No 46% Yes.

Early days so still all to play for.

[Arginald Valleywater]

In the words of the Scottish Bard aka Rabbie Burns. Alex you got buttfucked. And the arrogant choad is still carrying on....for now.

[David Johnson]

55-45%. turned out a lot less narrow than predicted. Good to see the smug grin wiped off Salmond's face.

[Porn Baron]

I disagree he scewed us English again. Even more of our money going north.
A clever politician who played Cameron Milliband and Clegg like a fiddle.
Milliband has to go surely? Just hopeless. Gordon Brown was the main man who secured the union. Can't believe I said that!!shocked!

[David Johnson]

"Even more of our money going north."

Yet to be seen given nothing seems to have been agreed. It looks as if more powers will be made available but that is not the same as money actually going from the rest to Scotland.

Having said that, Salmond never used the tax raising powers he already had. I suspect he and Nicola Sturgeon are as relieved as Westminster that the Scottish people did not vote for independence.

We have had a 2 year debate on independence in which no side wanted true independence. rUK didn't and Salmond's offering was not independence in any meaningful way given that the Bank of England would set interest rates and spending targets.

Gordon Brown did a good job but I think the main thing that secured the union was the poll which came out a couple of weeks ago showing a a yes majority. The silent No majority were then scared shitless into coming out and voting No in droves.

[welkram]

Thank goodness, am very pleased with the result, it seems that sanity prevailed.

To crown off this result would now like to see the resignation of both Alex Salmond
and Nicola Sturgeon plus the hospitalisition of Jim Sillars after being declared mentally
incompetent. (Did you hear his interview on radio last week after making threats to
the large companies, BP and the Banks that didn't back the YES vote, a pound to a
a pinch of snuff he was instructed not to back up his statement).

Another thing to throw in the pot, how many people in Scotland would like throw out
the English language and go back to speaking Gallic?

[David Johnson]

Jim Sillars really worked against the SNP by threatening "a day of reckoning" against those companies that had warned about the implications of a Yes vote.

This was all part of the madcap SNP approach whereby anybody who asked any questions or made any negative comments about the apparent absence of believable plans on currency, EU membership etc etc. were accused of scare mongering.

[frankthring]

Salmond is no fool.....the vote may have gone against him by 10% but the
pushy bugger will bleat on about more devolutionary powers for Scotland.
And the hapless Cameron obliges.
Is there anything Cameron can do right ? The most inept, appalling, ineffective,
abortion of a Prime Minister I have seen in my lifetime. There was no need for
him to offer Salmond this stupid referendum in the first place (and he only did
it because he thought it would be a walkover).
Supposedly he heads the party of conservative, traditionalist views in Britain
but, as the Guardian said yesterday, he never listens to anyone but himself.
Walking over his own party, he pushes through gay marriage (not an urgent
issue but certainly a divisive one for traditionalists), tries to embroil us in a
Syrian war, has a Press Secretary who is a hacking crook, cosies up to Murdoch
and Rebekkah Brooks - and now almost destroys the very union that helps
bind the "United Kingdom" together ! The man is - overall I think - far more
dangerous than Tony Blair ever was, and a liability to his party and the
nation.
He espouses clearly only one set of values; those of the wealthy (both he and
his wife are multi-millionaires from birth), privately educated, ivory tower
brigade of liberal espousing, velcro-clad, PC correct drips who, while good-
hearted and well-meaning in themselves, are utterly useless, but also due
to their bovine naivety, quite dangerous.

[David Johnson]

Agreed, Frank. Cameron could not have made a bigger bollocks of the referendum.