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Cunty seems to be a tad concerned with our M..u,,,s...l....I...m immigrants and how they are taking over,

So here you are Cunty. Words of comfort.

1. The Muslim population in Scotland is 1.5%. Surely King Alex can cope with this?

2. The Muslim population in England is 4.8%. Surely the other 95.2% of the population can prevent things getting out of hand and the female population of Newcastle being forced to wear niqabs when they go down the Bigg Market on the lash?

3. As for Cunty's "those Muslims are breeding like rabbits" I would like to provide even more words of comfort for Cunty.



Channel 4's FactCheck wouldn?t bet on the British Muslim population ever topping 10 per cent, let alone 50 per cent.

There you go Cunty. Nighty night, sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite.

For 4.5% of the population their influence far outweighs their numbers.

That is your perception. I doubt if that is backed up by fact for all the reasons I have given elsewhere e.g.

"Cunty seems to be a tad concerned with our M..u,,,s...l....I...m immigrants and how they are taking over,"

Thought those bloody Muslims already had taken over along with those bloody foreign europeans. It enough to make you leave the country and go to another country, which would make me an immigrant and a bloody foreigner. Oops sorry got that wrong. I would be an ex pat!!???

It's even worse than you think!!!!!!! If that was possible!!!!!!!!!!!

"That is your perception."

That's right David, HIS perception. I also have MY perception. You have YOUR perception.

Do you see what I am doing here?, we all have our perceptions, viewpoints and opinions. Just because they don't tally with yours does not make them wrong.

Stop trying to railroad people in to YOUR way of thinking. One thing that annoys me even more than falling bacon sales on the high street is people who try to nag you in to submission with their views. You are like a dog with a bone!!

Now bore off to the pleasure beach and give us some bloody peace man!!

"Do you see what I am doing here?, we all have our perceptions, viewpoints and opinions. Just because they don't tally with yours does not make them wrong. "

Having your own perception, viewpoint etc. does not mean necessarily that you are correct. Does it? That is what forums are about. Discussing different perceptions and viewpoints. Alas you appear incapable of arguing the case for your viewpoint.

Never mind!

David Johnson wrote:

> 2. The Muslim population in England is 4.8%.

It was 4.8% back in 2011, of a then population of over 56 million, according to the last census, so that's close to 3 million. However, when you look at the statistic amongst under 5 year olds the percentage is double that at over 9%. That's nearly a tenth of all babies born, which actually gives weight to Cunty's claim about breeding like rabbits. According to that 2011 census, Muslims now outnumber Christians, in a Christian country.

The recent incident with Subway banning bacon and ham in 185 of it's stores is clear evidence that they already have a huge influence. Don't get me wrong, I have no objection to Muslims having their beliefs, if they wish to eat only Halal meat then that's ok by me, I don't agree with it but I do respect their beliefs, but if we're supposed to be accepting of everyone and living in harmony, then shouldn't Subway be offering the choice of Halal meat or non-Halal meat? and shouldn't they be selling both Halal meat AND bacon/ham?

I don't agree with Halal because the laws surrounding stunning are discriminatory, the need for a Muslim to be present is discriminatory, the sacrificial throat slashing is symbolism from the bronze age and where stunning isn't implemented it's unnecessarily cruel. Not to mention, it is a religious ritual infringing into secular life.

However.......Subways are everywhere. It's not surprising that some Subways will be in areas where a large proportion of their customers are Muslim. Therefore, it is not unusual for capitalists to change what the sell to better suit the clientele. I don't see your problem with Halal.

"It was 4.8% back in 2011, of a then population of over 56 million, according to the last census, so that's close to 3 million. However, when you look at the statistic amongst under 5 year olds the percentage is double that at over 9%. That's nearly a tenth of all babies born, which actually gives weight to Cunty's claim about breeding like rabbits."

Because the birth rate amongst Muslims is higher than non-Muslims currently in the UK does not justify the disgusting dehumanising "breeding like rabbits" .

At the risk of repeating myself, have you read the details referenced in the link in the opening post to this thread? The Channel 4 Fact heck identifies studies where in a large number of European countries, the birth rate amongst Muslims is reducing and presents estimates of birth rates for a whole host of countries in which Muslim birth rates are expected to reduce.

"ccording to that 2011 census, Muslims now outnumber Christians, in a Christian country."

This is nonsense. I quote from the Office of National Statistics re. the 2011 census

"In the 2011 Census, Christianity was the largest religion, with 33.2 million people (59.3 per cent of the population). The second largest religious group were Muslims with 2.7 million people (4.8 per cent of the population)."

"14.1 million people, around a quarter of the population in England and Wales, reported they have no religion in 2011."

"The recent incident with Subway banning bacon and ham in 185 of it's stores is clear evidence that they already have a huge influence. "

Only through the fact that they have particular dietary requirements and in certain outlets in Subway no more than 10%, there is a business opportunity to make money selling halal food.

"Don't get me wrong, I have no objection to Muslims having their beliefs, if they wish to eat only Halal meat then that's ok by me, I don't agree with it but I do respect their beliefs"

I also respect their beliefs.

"bt if we're supposed to be accepting of everyone and living in harmony, then shouldn't Subway be offering the choice of Halal meat or non-Halal meat? and shouldn't they be selling both Halal meat AND bacon/ham?"

You give me the impression that you have very limited experience in the management of businesses. At the risk of repeating myself again, but it does seem necessary....

1. This is a question you should put to Subway, but their attitude I feel sure is exactly the same as in Pizzaland etc etc. They want to maximise their profits.

2. A food outlet company decides they want to serve halal food because they view there is a market. You will find that all companies want to reduce the number of suppliers as far as possible in order to get their product based on volumes at a much better rate than if they had hundreds more suppliers. ANd obviously there is an administrative overhead in dealing with hundreds more suppliers.

3. Some businesses might decide to sell halal in all their outlets, whereas some like Subway might only do it at some outlets.

4. Once a company has made the decision to use halal, they face the problems of what to do with cross-contamination if they produce both halal and non-halal foods at the same outlet, cooking them on the same facilities and potentially using the same oil is inevitably going to result in non-halal, pork etc contaminated food being supplied to Muslims whose dietary requirements you say you respect.

5. As a result of those potential problems in terms of pork contamination for example of halal foods, business have more often than not decided they do not want the expense of having twice the number of cooking devices and still run the risk of cross-contamination. This decision is largely driven by money.

Hope this helps your understanding.