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""Left Unity""

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:12 am
by number 6
The new SDP, if this lot grow in prominence and start gaining votes from Labour it'll be the tories in power for another 11 years,left wingers remember that.

Re: ""Left Unity""

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:06 am
by cockneygeezer2009
No chance. No ones heard of this New SDP and they are just a small bunch of people.
The social demographic of Britain is changing. Can't see Tories/and or Lib-Dems in for 11 years straight.
People should be more concerned about the rabid nutters in UKIP.


Re: ""Left Unity""

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:09 am
by randyandy
It won't happen but even if it did the only people to blame are the Labour party hierarchy.

Crass arrogance got 'us' voted out, mind numbing ignorance and stupidity could keep us out.

The only reason for the Tories to be voted out, much as it pains and annoys me to say it, is as a protest vote against Call me Dave & Co. not in a belief that 'our' 'values' (spiel to get 'us' elected) would mean anything to the majority.

Thankfully, depending on your view, it (the protest vote) will probably happen and the same old politics will just keep going....


Re: ""Left Unity""

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:33 pm
by Essex Lad
People are inherently tribal. Labour should represent the working class but doesn't. It was happy to open the floodgates and let untold numbers of immigrants into the country. Who suffered? Who found their wages pushed down or even lost their job altogether because employers could find cheaper ie foreign workers to fill those roles? It wasn't the middle classes who found a plentiful supply of cheap nannies and plumbers and waiters for their local bistro.

Labour didn't give a toss about the working class because it knows that people are inherently tribal and (not in all cases but many) once Labour always Labour. In any case, who else are the working class really likely to vote for?

Re: ""Left Unity""

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:25 am
by randyandy
Essex Lad wrote:


> Labour didn't give a toss about the working class because it
> knows that people are inherently tribal and (not in all cases
> but many) once Labour always Labour. In any case, who else are
> the working class really likely to vote for?

Their not voting, as they did, they are just walking away from voting

Re: ""Left Unity""

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:30 am
by Gentleman
That's spot on, I find myself now in te dilemma of being a union member but posibly not allowing a portion of my subscription going to labour, but if I do that where would they get their cash from? The same as the Tory party Soley big business and other billionaires with vested interests.

Funny thing is I now don't vote since tony Blair was voted in as labour leader and the new Labour Party.