Mosque Terror Attack
Mosque Terror Attack
Well that's their membership of the EDL instantly revoked.
Bloody Eastern Europeans they come over here.....
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max_tranmere
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The media have got it in for the EDL and have almost achieved their goal of having the public view the followers the same as they view the members of the BNP. The TV media always brand them 'far right', when to brand an organisation something just because the newsroom editor says so is not permitted - but they still do it. There have been discussions on here before about the EDL, I've conceded there are Nazi-saluting people that turn up at their gatherings. Those are to be condemned. Rather like there are people with very chequered pasts in the Labour party, but do we regard all Labour people as like that? No. As the EDL's leader has said on TV in interviews I've seen, they are the voice of the white working class in areas where those people have no voice. Apparently the good guys are the Unite Against Fascism organisation, who turn up and attack EDL people and Police officers. David Cameron is even a signatory to the UAF organisation. This from Wikipedia about the UAF:
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Arrests and controversy
UAF demonstration in Leeds, 31 October 2009.
On 19 August 2009, police arrested 19 protesters during a demonstration by UAF against the BNP's Red, White and Blue festival in Codnor, Derbyshire. Four people were charged; three with public order offences and one with unlawfully obstructing the highway.
On 22 October 2009, the UAF demonstration against Nick Griffin's appearance on the BBC's Question Time programme resulted in injuries to three police officers. UAF national officer and (then) SWP National Secretary Martin Smith was found guilty of assaulting one of the police officers at South Western Magistrates' Court, London, on 7 September 2010. He was sentenced to a 12-month community order, with 80 hours' unpaid work, and was fined ?450 pending an appeal.
On 20 March 2010 demonstrations from UAF and the English Defence League (EDL) in Bolton led to violent confrontations and the arrest of at least 55 UAF supporters, including the UAF protest organiser Weyman Bennett, on suspicion of conspiracy to commit violent disorder. At least three EDL supporters were also arrested, and two UAF members were taken to hospital with a minor head and a minor ear injury. After Bennett was charged and released, he accused the police of being hostile to anti-racists and called for an inquiry into the police's actions that day. The police, while criticising the EDL for "vitriolic name-calling" blamed people predominantly associated with UAF for provoking violence and said that they "acted with, at times, extreme violence". All charges against Weyman Bennett were eventually dropped. In response to this news he was quoted as saying: "This is a victory for anti-fascists and for the right to protest. I?m proud to say that the threat of these charges has not deterred any of us from continuing to stand up against the EDL. I can now continue my work without this serious false allegation hanging over me. It is imperative we continue to protest to protect our multi-racial communities."
On 30 August 2010, violence occurred in Brighton, East Sussex, during a UAF protest against a march organised by a group called the English Nationalist Alliance (ENA). A spokesman for the police, who were attempting to keep 250 protesters and marchers apart, said "Unfortunately a small group from the counter-demonstration [UAF] resisted this and threw missiles at the police." There were fourteen arrests during the violence.
On 2 June 2013, 58 UAF counter-demonstrators were arrested by police under Section 14 of the Public Order Act for failing to move up the street away from a BNP demonstration outside the Houses of Parliament against what the BNP describe as Islamic "hate preachers". The police had earlier banned the BNP from marching from Woolwich Barracks to the Houses of Parliament, fearing violence.
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When the media say "anti fascists demonstrated against the far right EDL" they are taking sides, they are also stating the EDL are fascists. Again something the TV media aren't allowed to do. Imagine if I ran an outfit called "The People Against Communism" and we showed up to protest against the Socialist Workers Party. If the TV news said "anti communist protestors where out in force against a march by the far left SWP" they would be branding the SWP as communists by implication. Also, if our lot attacked the SWP and a number of us were arrested, when the TV news report said "numerous people were arrested at a march by the SWP" they are hinting that it was the SWP who were the trouble makers, rather than saying it was the other lot, who ambushed them, who were instead. The equivilant of all that is what you get on the TV news regarding the EDL and the UAF. Terrible, biased reporting, hints, implications, and little revelation of the facts. This is outside the remit of impartiality the TV media are required to follow, and is also misleading. We have very low-quality journalism on our TV stations here in the UK. I don't know how they get away with it.
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Arrests and controversy
UAF demonstration in Leeds, 31 October 2009.
On 19 August 2009, police arrested 19 protesters during a demonstration by UAF against the BNP's Red, White and Blue festival in Codnor, Derbyshire. Four people were charged; three with public order offences and one with unlawfully obstructing the highway.
On 22 October 2009, the UAF demonstration against Nick Griffin's appearance on the BBC's Question Time programme resulted in injuries to three police officers. UAF national officer and (then) SWP National Secretary Martin Smith was found guilty of assaulting one of the police officers at South Western Magistrates' Court, London, on 7 September 2010. He was sentenced to a 12-month community order, with 80 hours' unpaid work, and was fined ?450 pending an appeal.
On 20 March 2010 demonstrations from UAF and the English Defence League (EDL) in Bolton led to violent confrontations and the arrest of at least 55 UAF supporters, including the UAF protest organiser Weyman Bennett, on suspicion of conspiracy to commit violent disorder. At least three EDL supporters were also arrested, and two UAF members were taken to hospital with a minor head and a minor ear injury. After Bennett was charged and released, he accused the police of being hostile to anti-racists and called for an inquiry into the police's actions that day. The police, while criticising the EDL for "vitriolic name-calling" blamed people predominantly associated with UAF for provoking violence and said that they "acted with, at times, extreme violence". All charges against Weyman Bennett were eventually dropped. In response to this news he was quoted as saying: "This is a victory for anti-fascists and for the right to protest. I?m proud to say that the threat of these charges has not deterred any of us from continuing to stand up against the EDL. I can now continue my work without this serious false allegation hanging over me. It is imperative we continue to protest to protect our multi-racial communities."
On 30 August 2010, violence occurred in Brighton, East Sussex, during a UAF protest against a march organised by a group called the English Nationalist Alliance (ENA). A spokesman for the police, who were attempting to keep 250 protesters and marchers apart, said "Unfortunately a small group from the counter-demonstration [UAF] resisted this and threw missiles at the police." There were fourteen arrests during the violence.
On 2 June 2013, 58 UAF counter-demonstrators were arrested by police under Section 14 of the Public Order Act for failing to move up the street away from a BNP demonstration outside the Houses of Parliament against what the BNP describe as Islamic "hate preachers". The police had earlier banned the BNP from marching from Woolwich Barracks to the Houses of Parliament, fearing violence.
ENDS
When the media say "anti fascists demonstrated against the far right EDL" they are taking sides, they are also stating the EDL are fascists. Again something the TV media aren't allowed to do. Imagine if I ran an outfit called "The People Against Communism" and we showed up to protest against the Socialist Workers Party. If the TV news said "anti communist protestors where out in force against a march by the far left SWP" they would be branding the SWP as communists by implication. Also, if our lot attacked the SWP and a number of us were arrested, when the TV news report said "numerous people were arrested at a march by the SWP" they are hinting that it was the SWP who were the trouble makers, rather than saying it was the other lot, who ambushed them, who were instead. The equivilant of all that is what you get on the TV news regarding the EDL and the UAF. Terrible, biased reporting, hints, implications, and little revelation of the facts. This is outside the remit of impartiality the TV media are required to follow, and is also misleading. We have very low-quality journalism on our TV stations here in the UK. I don't know how they get away with it.
Re: Mosque Terror Attack
yeah Max,those EDL are salt of the earth people..not racist at all,just misunderstood.....LOL
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David Johnson
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Max
Ah yes Tommy Robinson or whatever he currently calls himself.
Here he is ex-BNP member, football yob, violent criminal being destroyed in interview by Andrew Neil.
Obviously, just your kind of politician, Max.
Here he is ex-BNP member, football yob, violent criminal being destroyed in interview by Andrew Neil.
Obviously, just your kind of politician, Max.
Re: Mosque Terror Attack
Must be hard and disappointing to be a member of the idiot left at the moment.....
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Sam Slater
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Re: Mosque Terror Attack
[quote]As the EDL's leader has said on TV in interviews I've seen, they are the voice of the white working class in areas where those people have no voice. [/quote]
I dislike almost everything about Islam, and working class, but these hooligans don't speak for me or most people I know.
I dislike almost everything about Islam, and working class, but these hooligans don't speak for me or most people I know.
[i]I used to spend a lot of time criticizing Islam on here in the noughties - but things are much better now.[/i]
Sam Slater
Sam Slater wrote:
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> I dislike almost everything about Islam, and working class,
Why do you hate the working class?
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> I dislike almost everything about Islam, and working class,
Why do you hate the working class?
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David Johnson
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Gentlemen
Well we all know what Stephen Yaxley/Lennon/Tommy Robinson's dangerously ludicrous views are.
How many serious political leaders have a number of violent crime convictions, are an ex member of the BNP, have a history of football yobbery? That is the story isn't it? How a pillock like Yaxley/Lennon/Robinson can be taken seriously in this country?
I love the bit where he denied that people connected with the EDL had been involved in attacks on mosques because the EDL do not have members. Yet the EDL website boasts about how many members they have. He must have Lynton Crosby advising him.
How many serious political leaders have a number of violent crime convictions, are an ex member of the BNP, have a history of football yobbery? That is the story isn't it? How a pillock like Yaxley/Lennon/Robinson can be taken seriously in this country?
I love the bit where he denied that people connected with the EDL had been involved in attacks on mosques because the EDL do not have members. Yet the EDL website boasts about how many members they have. He must have Lynton Crosby advising him.