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They claim to be patriots,but either they are too pig ignorant or brain dead to realise what they espouse and who they blame(muslims) is no different to nazi germany and hitler stirring hate about the jews...working class people who get involved with these scumbags need a history lesson fast,or are just plain evil

Did jews go about with body bombs and explode themselves in busy places....

Did jews..... oh whats the point of going on trying to explain the difference here ? I dont think you would listen or understand what the issues are.

Its not anti muslim but totally anti extremists. The muslim hatred needs to be addressed and eradicated or we will see more people killed on our streets.

"Did jews go about with body bombs and explode themselves in busy places....

Did jews..... oh whats the point of going on trying to explain the difference here ? I dont think you would listen or understand what the issues are."

William, you perhaps should read about the Jewish insurgency in Palestine in the 1940s when they were fighting for an independent Israel. Against the British, there were bombs, political assassinations, kidnappings and the killing of the kidnapped as reprisals etc. etc.

Maybe not suicide bombings, but if you are blown to bits, you are dead irrespective of the nature of the bombing. This even went on when Britain was fighting Nazi Germany, a country whose leadership vilified the Jews and slaughtered them in their millions as Number 6 points out.



Maybe you need to "understand what the issues are" a little bit more yourself, William?

EDL/BNP will use anything to publicise their cause. Just because a couple of religious nutters attack an innocent person doesn't mean all muslims are the same.

Just because Gary Glitter has underage sex abroad does the that mean all British people are peadophiles. Of course not.

Just because Britain invaded Iraq and Afghanistan does that mean all British people agree with it. Of course it doesn't.

People do bad things or break the law because they want to!

Good point cockney geezer...Thats a good argument against those that oppose our way of life here in Britain because of the war in those countries.

A lot of americans feel the same way too

As a soldier, that poor lad murdered in Woolwich last week probably had no hand in killing anyone in Afghanistan let alone the women and children that nutty murderer accused him of being responsible for

In my mind he killed an innocent man as far as I'm concerned.

[quote]People do bad things or break the law because they want to![/quote]

Or, more accurately, bad people only need the slightest excuse to do bad things.

This is why a BNP supporter will use a minority of Muslims who've done bad things as an opportunity for a bit of racism, or encourage some policy that has racist motives (get all Muslims out of the UK, for instance).

I think the EDL has less of a hardline than the BNP. The EDL were formed following that terrible event in Luton where returning soldiers were heckled and spat at by a posse of extreme muslim scumbags at the road side. The BNP were born out of the old NF, and both the BNP and the NF just have an anti immigrant/non-white person agenda. The EDL have a Jewish Division, a Sikh division, a Hindu Division, and a gay & lesbian division. Their leader Tommy Robinson has said he would immediately close down the organisation if the Government took a stand against militant Islam in Britain. By this he means: demanding muslims follow our ways rather than the words of a 7th century book, demand they respect women's rights and those of gay people, demand they follow freedom of speech rules, close down all Sharia Courts in Britain, and so on.

Because the media always call the EDL 'far right' this has given the impression to more of less everyone that they are. I saw an appalling feature on Channel 4 news on Monday where they were talking about "the rise of the far-right across Europe". They aligned the EDL with extremists in Hungary for some reason, the leadership of this outfit in Hungary are openly anti-semetic and were very overt on the programme when interviewed about how much they hate Jewish people and immigrants in general. This is so far outside the remit of what impartial broadcasters on TV are allowed to do. They are there to report the news, not to be judge and jury on organisations such as the EDL.

Because of this "far-right" tag by the supposedly impartial TV media, the organisation Help For Heroes is now refusing to take money from the EDL's leader Tommy Robinson from a sponsored walk he is going to do from Westminster to Woolwich. Most of the doners are ex-servicemen. The man in charge of Help For Heroes said "we will not take money from an organisation that is regarded as extreme". The people who give to H4H are often the same people who give money to the EDL -ex-servicemen. The TV media have largely caused this boycott of the EDL by H4H. It was Channel 4 news who alerted the leader of H4H to the fact the EDL leader was doing this sponsored walk aswell, and forced a response from him. Someone tweeted C4 news about this, they got in touch with H4H about it, caused as much trouble as they could, then door-stepped the H4H leader demanding a response. This can only be described as shit stirring, as I said the TV media are just meant to report the news, not meddle in issues, brand people certain things, and so on.

Does the EDL have members who are not very bright and some members with obnoxious racist views - certainly. These people are to be condemned but I wonder if they have the approval of the leadership. If Tommy Robinson has a policy of kicking out any member who officially says such things, or is caught in mobile phone footage doing that - just like the leadership of any political party would do - then I don't think the EDL can be branded racist as an organisation if the nasty views are not the official line of the organisation. Any more than the Tories, Labour or the Lib Dems could be branded racist or bad just because some of their members might be.

I'm not one of those that thin every englishman is a racist for being disgruntled for feeling like a second class citizen in his own country

Whenever I have an opposing video to something I try to put myself in the other guys position and see how i woiuld feel about it and its only then when things become clearer when you can move mforward and meet half way

No doubt if the EDL have a few nutters then its the overspill of the BNP using it to take advantage of having a bloody good tear up.

Lets face it, if mark Duggans shooting caused fear and paranoia in the community then why shouldnt white folk feel the same when a white soldier gets hacked to death on an english street?

To be honest, apart from a few skirmishes theyve been reasonably well behaved and you cant blame them for showing up in force. I expected a lot worse the evening that incident happened

I don't anytime for the help to the heroes group (if you want to give to those in. Military service or have been give it to the British legion) as I associate them with the Murdoch press which Brings me to why h2h is happy to take money/publicity from the likes of the Murdoch press who are happy to exploit children's deaths for profit amongst its other odious methods.

I fear a lot of leftie bollocks is as much to blame for the likes of the group with three letters feeling the need to exist as the terrorist, who goes around hacking soldiers to bits, feels the need to commit murder.

Perhaps you to should sit down and drink tea.