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Great end to the Football season

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 6:34 pm
by welkram

Manchester United........'aint ya just sick of 'em.


Leading 2-5, finish with a 5-5 draw, not the end that the manager wanted to go out on, who go the job of bollocking the players.

Could only happen with the baggies.


Re: Great end to the Football season

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 6:50 pm
by Essex Lad
welkram wrote:

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> Manchester United........Leading 2-5, ---how could they have been leading 2-5? They were leading 5-2.

Re: Great end to the Football season

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 9:07 am
by thecocker
Because that's how you say it when it's away from home. As Man U were away from home, there's nothing wrong with saying 2-5.

Re: Great end to the Football season

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:29 pm
by Essex Lad
thecocker wrote:

> Because that's how you say it when it's away from home.

No, you don't say it that way. It doesn't make sense for a start. How on earth can someone be winning 2-5 ? irrespective of whether they are home or away.

As Man
> U were away from home, there's nothing wrong with saying 2-5.

Of course there is ? it's a nonsense.

You don't say Roger Federer is beating Andy Murray 2-6, 1-6, 0-4 when the game played is in Britain.

The winning (leading) score always always always goes first.

Re: Great end to the Football season

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:26 am
by Sam Slater
It's not as simple as that and there's no strict rules.

Common parlance is to put the team that is the subject of the conversation first, irrespective of the score and irrespective of who was at home: If we were talking about Crystal Palace we'd say "Palace/they/we won three-nil", or "Palace/they/we lost three-nil".

When written down, the home team's score can be written first as it make it clear who was the home team without having to type it out. It's not common to do so when talking but in text it's not uncommon or incorrect.


Re: Great end to the Football season

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:47 pm
by Essex Lad
Sam Slater wrote:

> It's not as simple as that.

Yes, it is. It's quite simple and has been for years and years and years.
>
> Common parlance is to put the team that is the subject of the
> conversation first, irrespective of the score and irrespective
> of who was at home: If we were talking about Crystal Palace
> we'd say "Palace/they/we won three-nil", or "Palace/they/we
> lost three-nil".

Yes, so the larger score goes first...

>
> When written down, the home team's score can be written first
> as it make it clear who was the home team without having to
> type it out. It's not common to do so when talking but in text
> it's not uncommon or incorrect.
>
What does it matter who the home side is? If you're interested in the match you will know who the home side is and if not all that's important is that Manchester United beat Spurs 7-1 or 9-0 or whatever. No match report EVER states Manchester United beat Spurs 1-9.

Re: Great end to the Football season

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:57 pm
by Sam Slater
I've explained it as clearly as I can.

I can do no more to help you, Essex Lad.


Re: Great end to the Football season

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 8:24 pm
by Essex Lad
You don't need to help. Just admit that no match report ever begins "Manchester United beat Spurs 1-9 today..." (teams and scoreline an example and bears no relation to any match or score or team living or dead)

Re: Great end to the Football season

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 7:21 am
by Sam Slater
If you'd read my first post and understood it, you wouldn't have written your last post.

Reread it and you'll find there's nothing in your last post that actually contradicts or goes against anything in my first.


Re: Great end to the Football season

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 7:46 am
by welkram
I'm sorry Essex Lad that the grammer of my post confused you so much, all I wanted was comments on the last game, nothing more.

l'm sure you could use your superior knowledge of what comes first or second to greater effect on other more serious posts.