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I shot this late last night in soho, Oh how it has changed !wink!

Like Damm Square in Amsterdam another big let down. Soho is as risque as the Sport newspaper and full of people doing regular jobs.

Would you prefer it to be full of drug addicts, pimps, prostitutes, down and outs and other undesirables?

Arginald Valleywater wrote:

> Like Damm Square in Amsterdam another big let down. Soho is as
> risque as the Sport newspaper and full of people doing regular
> jobs.

planeterotica wrote:

Yes and full of muscle bound bouncers from eastern europe who when you stand up to them shite themselves !shitstorm!

Essex Lad wrote:

> Would you prefer it to be full of drug addicts, pimps,
> prostitutes, down and outs and other undesirables?

planeterotica wrote:

Yes please that is what i am used to, people walking around soho last nite thinking what a dump where is the sex, both guys and girls.. !wink!

You want to get yourself up to Blackpool, Graham - much more interesting.

Alas you are too late now to attend the wonderful Pigeon Weekend at the Winter Gardens, where you get to see some pigeons which compared to your normal street variety is like comparing Mike Tyson with your Auntie Margaret.

However you could book yourself in for Showzam in February.



As we say in the North West, you can get some very "outre" characters attending.

And you can pop down to Funny Girls and meet a range of sexes.

David Johnson wrote:

> You want to get yourself up to Blackpool, Graham - much more
> interesting.

planeterotica wrote:

David, back in the 60/70s i drove lorries or trucks like they are called now and i would load fruit/veg from millwall/east india docks in london and deliver anywhere in london and nationwide, i delivered to your part of the world on many ocassions but was always glad to see and get back to the bright lights of London...

2nfro wrote:

> Great Night out.
> These days you get mugged inside not out side ....
> What were you looking for or expecting ?

planeterotica wrote:

I wasn't looking for or expecting anything, what you see in the film is soho today, i tried to keep peoples faces out of it but what you see is it.

It's all down to westminster council who think that by cleaning up soho they can attract more people, it was dead there was more sexual activity going on in Trafalgar Square !wink!

Opposite the Windmill there is a nice pub called The Lyric. Me and my pals go there sometimes. It's open till midnight on Friday and Saturday (possibly other nights too) and the staff are friendly.

Regarding the area, it has been cleaned up a lot in recent decades and now the sleaze bit consists of little more than about 100 yards of Brewer Street, the top of Rupert Street, Walkers Court, and the tiny little road that is Peter Street. There is also an alleyway off of Rupert Street near the top (I can't remember it's name) and an alleyway off Brewer Street called Green Court too. You see the odd doorway with "model: first floor" round other parts of Soho but only here and there.

I remember when the sleaze district there was massive. All of Soho down across Shaftsbury Avenue, through Chinatown down to Leicester Square. Now it is a tiny area, and getting smaller all the time. Most of what were sleaze outlets in the 1970's, 80's and 90's are now fancy restaurants and expensive shops.

Most of Brewer Street is licenced and I expect that eventually that will be the only bit of the sleaze district left. It is shrinking all the time. They demolished those buildings at the bottom of Berwick Street, by the junction with Peter Street, and replaced them with expensive (but hideous looking) flats. That put-paid to a few joints. That notorious 'clip joint' further up Great Windmill Street, next to the school, has now gone and the premises is now a posh hairdressers. Soho ain't what it used to be.

Most of the unlicenced outlets there, and the brothels, are run by gangsters from the East End. Apparently foreign mafia gangs have infiltrated quite a lot of the business there and have demanded a cut from all the unlicenced places. The East End firms who run them apparently felt they had little choice but to hand over some of the illegal business. I've walked through the area at midnight and seen all kinds of shady people hanging around outside places, presumably there to take money.

For many years much of the ill-gotten-gains from that area went to buy big mansions in Essex and flats in Spain. Now a lot of it ends up in Albania apparently.