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Django

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:43 pm
by one eyed jack
Great film.

Not entirely sure what the fuss was about the racism in it. I'm surprised white folk werent all up in arms about it making whites look dumb, ignorant, evil and waiting to be served justice being dispatched as some were rather violently into the afterlife.

That aside I honestly dont think this would cause friction and can only put it down to hype of the best kind to get people to go out and see it.

For me, every Tarantino film is a cinematic event to share with an audience on the big screen

On a side note I know the film was based on a Django character that was white but I was wondering if Quentin was inspired to make his character black to reflect the runaway slave who was very similar to Django but suffered a less romantic fate of being lynched to death for his Spartacus like efforts




Re: Django

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:31 pm
by lloyd42
Can't say that I was too impressed. Left the cinema feeling the same as I did after watching 'Kill Bill Vols. 1 and 2' and 'Inglourios Basterds' i.e. a good idea stretched to almost an interminable length and probably Tarantino's most shamefaced stab at an Oscar nod yet.
I also left feeling that thirty five years ago this same subject was approached with a little more style , wit ,and brevity. A quick look on Youtube and ,lo and behold, someone seems to have agreed with me...



Re: Django

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:55 pm
by Don Roobles
still the clan scene alone was worth the ticket price IMO lmao


Re: Django

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:19 pm
by one eyed jack
I agree with you Don. That was hilarious and believable.


Re: Django

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:29 pm
by one eyed jack
Cool clip Lloyd. Nice find but for me I dont always go for originality. if that was the case id never go to the cinema. I go to be entertained.

Even original ideas can be good but if the execution of it it terrible its a giant waste of time. Django is Tarantinos mash up of ideas he has already made it clear before he even made the mvie it was going to be his homage to the western. I was just waiting for the day it hit the screen and I wasnt disappointed.

I know what you mean about Kill Bill vol 2 but to know the guys style is to love him I say

The guy is a movie buff turned movie maker given money to make the kind of movies he has the fever for and it shows.

I dont expect for a second for everyone to get that.


Re: Django

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:32 pm
by max_tranmere
"I was wondering if Quentin was inspired to make his character black to reflect the runaway slave who was very similar to Django but suffered a less romantic fate of being lynched to death for his Spartacus like efforts"

QT says in that interview I posted in the other thread that he wanted his character to be someone black American males could have as a hero figure.

I've not seen the film as I said on the other thread, but may do. There are only a handful of films I've watched that genuinely disturbed me. One was Hellraiser 2, another was Robocop, and the other was Reservour Dogs. Each one not only genuinely troubled me as I sat watching but haunted me for ages afterwards. If Django Unchained is QT's most violent film ever, and the Newsnight Culture programme on BBC2 said it was, then I might avoid it - which is a shame as it sounds good (if a watered-down version was released).

You can tell grim stories without it having to be excessively violent - look at Zulu, an 'able to be screened on the TV in the afternoon' family flick.

Re: Django

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:50 am
by one eyed jack
Tom and Jerry and Daffy Duck are exceedingly violent too. How many times have you seen those characters get blown up, squished, flattened, skinned?

I think you get the picture

Its just a film


Max

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:59 am
by thealtruist
Ignore Newsnight.

It's nowhere near as violent as they are say it is. That's just the media blowing things out of proportion.

But, I have to ask, how on earth did you find those films disturbing? There was nothing to them. Films like "August Underground" or "Murder Set Pieces" are VERY disturbing and hard to watch. I could understand if you found a Lucifer Valentine film too much to bear.

This isn't meant as an insult or anything so please don't take it as one but do you have a weak stomach? I don't understand your problem with violence in films. Why can't you watch it? I remembered reading a post of yours where you said "A Clockwork Orange" was too much for you. I really couldn't get my head round that. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it I'm just trying to understand. I've seen the most stomach churning films and haven't batted an eyelid so it's strange to speak to someone with a totally opposite view.

Re: Django

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:34 pm
by one eyed jack
Dont watch it Max, the sight of Jamie Foxx shooting white folk might distress you

Given your predisposition with ethnics in real life we will not hear the end of it how the film was terribly violent and anti white if you saw it and hated it


Re: Django

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:40 pm
by max_tranmere
I don't know why you go on about this all the time. You accuse me of constantly talking about race issues when most of the discussion on this over the last few days has been started by you.