Scum Liverpool fans..the real killers

[mrmcfister]

Load of bollocks will be uttered today by Liverpool supporters bleating on about how the police fucked up over Hillsborough.But the real villains in the piece are the thousands of scum supporters who set off without tickets with the sole intention of forcing their way in through inadequate security.The police were left bewildered and caved in and tried to cover up their fuck up.But the guilt is with the fans who as a wild mob, baying and swearing,frightening little kids who massively forced their way in.They know who they are.

[Arginald Valleywater]

Eh Eh Kerm Down! It was the Police who had a masterplan to go out and murder hundreds of innocent football fans....gimme gimme compensation and we'll shut the fuck up.

[number 6]

Mrmcfister,not Kelvin Mckenzie by any chance are you? Why else would you come out with such insensitive,lying bullshit. The Sun is used as toilet paper in Liverpool these days precisely because of the lies you have just said.

[David Johnson]

I see you lads are still pumping out the piss about this.

Argie, below is one of the times you were shown to be arse talking on this subject.

http://bgafd.co.uk/forum/read.php?f=3&i=250939&t=250831

[Grendel1]

I suggest you both learn some facts before giving your views which are based on lies, and I find wholly offensive.

[Flat_Eric]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, that really is a cracking filing system that you have on us all, David!

To be able to put your finger in an instant on old quote from a dead thread just like that.

Or have you had it all digitised now and put onto memory sticks, to save space in the catacombs of Johnson Towers and get rid of all those dusty old shelves and file boxes?

Either way, the KGB would have been envious at such efficiency. You didn't hone your skills working as a Labour Party parliamentary researcher did you?

- Eric

[Grendel1]

I don't suppose you or anyone else will be man enough to apologise now that independent report is out., and the original inquest is about to be quashed? Go back to reading the s**.

[JamesW]

It is interesting that a rank liar like mrmcfister refers to other people as scum.

The rest of us can only hope that he's familar with the concept of irony.

[David Johnson]

Eric,

"I've said it before and I will say it again"

Yeah and it was a dopey post last time round as well. !wink!

This may come as an emormous surprise to you but those well known KGB people who go under the pseudonym, BGAFD admin, allegedly short for Bureacracy Gives Arse Fucking to Democracy, keep track of all of our messages.

How spooky is that? I am amazed no-one has mentioned it.

Now if you want tips on the Search button, get in touch with the oberleiters at BGAFD Admin and don't bother me with your silliness.

[David Johnson]

Let's see if you two have any bollocks shall we?

Here is the APOLOGY from Cameron made as part of a statement to the House of Commons.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19574108

I include the section of Findings: Attempt to blame the fans.

Given you two have been spewing vile lies about this for a long time, let's see if you have the bollocks to apologise?

Findings: Attempt to blame the fans

Second, the families have long believed that some of the authorities attempted to create a completely unjust account of events that sought to blame the fans for what happened.

Mr Speaker, the families were right.

The evidence in today's report includes briefings to the media and attempts by the police to change the record of events.

On the media. Several newspapers reported false allegations that fans were drunk and violent and stole from the dead.

The Sun's report sensationalised these allegations under a banner headline "The Truth".

This was clearly wrong and caused huge offence, distress and hurt.

News International has co-operated with the panel and, for the first time, today's report reveals that the source for these despicable untruths was a Sheffield news agency reporting conversations with South Yorkshire Police and Irvine Patnick, the then MP for Sheffield Hallam.

The report finds that this was part of police efforts - and I quote - 'to develop and publicise a version of events that focused on allegations of drunkenness, ticketlessness and violence.'

In terms of changing the record of events, we already know that police reports were significantly altered but the full extent was not drawn to Lord Justice Taylor's attention.

Today's report finds that 164 statements were significantly amended - and 116 explicitly removed negative comments about the policing operation - including its lack of leadership.

The report also makes important findings about particular actions taken by the police and coroner while investigating the deaths.

There is new evidence which shows that police officers carried out police national computer checks on those who had died in an attempt - and I quote from the report - 'to impugn the reputations of the deceased.'

The coroner took blood alcohol levels from all of the deceased including children.

The panel finds no rationale whatsoever for what it regards as an 'exceptional' decision.

The report states clearly that the attempt of the inquest to draw a link between blood alcohol and late arrival was 'fundamentally flawed'.

And that alcohol consumption was 'unremarkable and not exceptional for a social or leisure occasion'.

Mr Speaker, over all these years questions have been raised about the role of the government - including whether it did enough to uncover the truth.

It is certainly true that some of the language in the government papers published today was insensitive.

But having been through every document - and every government document including cabinet minutes will be published - the panel found no evidence of any government trying to conceal the truth.

At the time of the Taylor Report the then prime minister was briefed by her private secretary that the defensive and - I quote - 'close to deceitful' behaviour of senior South Yorkshire officers was 'depressingly familiar'.

And it is clear that the then government thought it right that the chief constable of South Yorkshire should resign.

But as the Rt Hon Member for Leigh has rightly highlighted, governments then and since have simply not done enough to challenge publicly the unjust and untrue narrative that sought to blame the fans.