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Mark Chapman
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:16 am
by lloyd42
It now appears that Mark Chapman is Americas very own Ian Brady.No one in the authorities will want to go down in history as the person who freed the man who killed a Beatle.
Re: Mark Chapman
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:34 am
by spider
Would it be the same story if he had shot Ringo?
Re: Mark Chapman
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:42 am
by max_tranmere
The loathing and hatred towards this man is so great that I remember his lawyer even received death threats for taking on the case. The lawyer received so many death threats within hours of taking the case on that he quit the same day as far as I recall. If this piece of shit Chapman was released he would be murdered within minutes.
Re: Mark Chapman
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:20 am
by JamesW
lloyd42 wrote:
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> It now appears that Mark Chapman is Americas very own Ian
> Brady.
Just to be clear -- nobody in this country has ever denied parole to Ian Brady, because Ian Brady has never once applied for parole and has always said he would never do so.
Re: Mark Chapman
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:38 am
by MrTickle
I never saw Mark Chapman as the man who shot Lennon. I saw him more as the man who missed Yoko by two foot!
Re: Mark Chapman
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:41 pm
by bernard72
Couldn't have put it better myself MrTickle, and that's why he should rot behind bars. I mean, six shots he had and missed her with every one.
Re: Mark Chapman
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:59 pm
by Arginald Valleywater
The Ringo remark is quite accurate. Lennon for some reason has been elevated to a mystical status, particularly in the US. I get the impression Chapman is being denied parole because of who he shot rather than been given a fair crack.
Re: Mark Chapman
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:41 am
by spider
I never ?got? John Lennon, he was too contradictory.
In the mid 60?s he handed back his MBE in protest at ?the British governments? support to the war in Vietnam?.
Then a couple of years later he was fighting for a Green Card to allow him the right to live and work in the US. This was the country which was actually dropping the bombs on the Vietnamese civilians.
It was particularly galling because it was Harold Wilson?s government who gave him the MBE and it was Wilson who had a hell of a battle with LBJ to stop British troops being sent to Vietnam. President Johnson wanted British troops sent to fight in Vietnam in support of US policy.
I?m sure it would have been easier for Wilson just to have rolled over and complied with what the US wanted like Blair did thirty five years later.
Then when Lennon was singing ?imagine no possessions?, he was renting the next door apartment in the Dakota building for Yoko to keep her clothes.
I know it?s heresy to say you don?t think Lennon is the greatest man to have ever lived after Jesus but there you are. I don?t get him.
Re: Mark Chapman
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:24 am
by Sam Slater
I think most people in America were against the war in Vietnam and Lennon probably saw it more as US government policy rather than any fault with the country as a whole.
As for the 'imagine no possessions': maybe that was a side-swipe at his wife's spending!
Re: Mark Chapman
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:16 am
by one eyed jack
I watched Imagine the other night and totally get John Lennon. yes he was contradictory in aspects of what he did and what he said but ultimately I felt the man meant well ans that is most important in my estimation.
If we are going to pick on his lyrics...He did say to imagine. I'm sure we can all do that but its not the reality and nor will it ever be and thats what makes the song so poignant