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Late News just in....
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:46 am
by David Johnson
Mohammed Khan, a Rochdale kebab shop owner, wanted in the UK for two cases of alleged sexual assault has sought refuge in the Argentinian embassy in Stockholm.
A European arrest warrant had previously been issued by the UK but Khan had gone through the various legal defences to avoid extradition to the United Kingdom.
Khan argued he won't get a fair trial in the UK.
As soon as the Swedish High Court turned down his final appeal, Khan jumped bail and sought asylum status in the Argentinian embassy. The Argentinian ambassador described the charges of alleged sexual assault as "laughable".
Would all forumites agree with me that this is an absolutely disgusting use of the asylum seeker process and that Khan is not an asylum seeker, but someone trying to avoid answering charges of sexual assault?
What about those poor girls in Rochdale? Doesn't anyone care about them? Don't they deserve justice?
Re: Late News just in....
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:06 am
by Flat_Eric
What the fuck are you babbling on about, man? I didn't realise it was hot enough to get sunstroke and delerium in Blackpool.
- Eric
Re: Are you going nutty?
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:19 am
by jimslip
You seem to speak in an endless stream of riddles. Perhaps you'd care to decode your thread starter so we can all understand the point you are trying to make? Are you making an psuedo ironic challenge that:
Julian Assange is just a sex pervert and that is why he is hiding in the Equadorian Embassy?
Are you saying that he is no better than your Rochdale kebab pervert?
Are you trying to draw some kind of nutty analogy between Assange and what you seem to believe, the wrongful arrest and imprisonment of the Pakistani peado gangs? A topic that you seem obsessed with.
I am totally confused, please speak in plain English!confused!
Of course on the matter of your kebab shop pervert seeking refuge in the Argentian embassy only a complete idiot would be unable to see why he chose this embassy out of all others. The crafty pervert knows full well that he has put the Argentians in an impossible situation as they are supposed to hate us. Unfotunately for him, the Argies probably hate sex perverts even more than they hate us. I am sure the Argies wont take kindly to their embassy becoming a haven for Pakistani sex perverts.
I would imagine you will be heartbroken if this man is extradited to the UK!
Re: Late News just in....
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:25 am
by Porn Baron
Are you implying Mr Assange is taking the piss?
Re: Late News just in....
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:53 am
by Lizard
Small dog named Norman,......sugar,oh go on then.
Re: Late News just in....
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:02 pm
by bernard72
In your sick eyes "NO"
Porn Baron
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:02 pm
by David Johnson
Correct. It is always nice on here when you find someone who has a functioning brain. And you have.
In the situation that I describe re. "Mohammed Khan" every right thinking person would think that he should be returned to the UK to face trial. And I would hope that everyone would think that he should not be allowed to demean the concept of a refugee in order to avoid justice.
However, if you change Julian Assange for "Mohammed Khan", the location of the alleged sexual assaults from Britain to Sweden and the location of the asylum seeker to the Ecuador embassy in London as opposed to the Argentine embassy in Stockholm, you have the story of the Julian Assange assault cases in a nutshell. Exactly the same as "Mohammed Khan"..
And hey presto, so many people completely change their attitudes. Why is that? Mainly because they run together and confuse two things: the alleged sexual assaults and the potential Wikileaks extradition.
THey are separate. Now the conspiracy theorists on here of whom there are a great number will argue that the assault charges are a made- up ploy to lure Assange to Sweden so that he can be extradited to America.
What the people who argue this, fail uttterly and completely to explain is:
1. When/If a request comes in from the States to say Sweden, both the UK and Sweden have to authorise that extradition so there is twice the risk in the States being successful.
2. Sweden routinely come at or near the top of the listings with regard to observance of due process and human rights legislation. It would be much better for the States if Assange stayed in GB which has a poorer record on human rights and a very one-sided extradition treaty with the States which was brought in under the Labour government.
3. Neither the UK nor Britain would be able to agree to the extradition of Assange to the US if there was any risk of him being treated inhumanely or face the death penalty. Human rights lawyers would have a field day with the way Bradley Manning who provided much of the info for Wikileaks has been treated whilst in prison awaitin trial in the US. And why would they not be able to extradite him in that situation? The good old European Convention on Human Rights would prevent it, the very same ECHR that the knucklegrazers on here and on the right wing of the Tories would like to see abolished.
4. If either Sweden and/or the UK threatened to extradite Assange there would be a huge political furore, particularly in Sweden.
5. And finally, Assange himself thought he would be ok to be in Sweden which is why in autumn 2010 after the accusations were made, Mr Julian Assange asked to be given permanent residence in Sweden.
So in short "Are you implying Mr Assange is taking the piss?
I think I am. He is a bit of a drama queen of which we have quite a few, not surprisingly in Blackpool. Off for some cider now. Enjoy your weekend Mr Porn Baron.
Re: Porn Baron
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:05 pm
by Flat_Eric
David Johnson wrote:
> However, if you change Julian Assange for "Mohammed Khan", the
> location of the alleged sexual assaults from Britain to Sweden
> and the location of the asylum seeker to the Ecuador embassy in
> London as opposed to the Argentine embassy in Stockholm, you
> have the story of the Julian Assange assault cases in a
> nutshell. Exactly the same as "Mohammed Khan"..
>
> And hey presto, so many people completely change their
> attitudes.
Personally David I have no "attuitude" about "Mohammed Khan" one way or the other because "Mohammed Khan" doesn't actually exist. He's a figment of your imagination. A straw man.
I think you need to go easy on that cider.
- Eric
Re: Late News just in....
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:40 pm
by Ken Shabby
David Johnson wrote: "....the very same ECHR that the knucklegrazers on here and on the right wing of the Tories would like to see abolished."
Really David, if you look down on us so much, why do you even care what we think?
For what it's worth though, I too think that Assange should be extradited and stand trial. Surely those women's charges deserve to be heard (and to be brutally honest, he strikes me as a posh troublemaker who thinks that one law applies to him and another to the rest of us).
I'd say pretty much the same about your kebab shop owner - If he existed. I can honestly say that race doesn't come into it.
Eric
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:57 am
by David Johnson
"Personally David I have no "attuitude" about "Mohammed Khan" one way or the other because "Mohammed Khan" doesn't actually exist. He's a figment of your imagination."
You have no attitude or viewpoint? Really? Honestly?
I think you may want to think about that statement a little more.
Otherwise, you must have really struggled in English Literature at school.