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Does everyone have one these days especially the bloody iphone!.

Seems so, whilst hardly anyone uses them to their fullest extent, most will get some useful use out of one.

I know i'm always prepared with mine!

Yeah, I use it for phone, text and email (obviously). I use it as an .mp3 player or listening to the radio. I used it over the summer taking snaps in the Peak District, as well as using Googe Maps to get about/find nearest cafe/train times etc. Most of my friends use the inbuilt Google Navigation rather than Tom Tom these days as Google update your maps more often. I use the gps when I go for a run and it tells me how far/fast I've run, as well as the elevation and sync it to my Google Docs online. I use it at the gym to keep track of what exercises I've done, how many set/reps and the weight I lifted. I use Springpad to save recipes I've seen online so they're at hand in the kitchen, as a cookbook would be. Then there are small things like using it to write a shopping list, keep appointments, set alarms and reminders............

As a 'tool' I've got my money's-worth out of it!

I used to have a Blackberry. I changed to an Iphone which is brilliant especially if you have other Macs. An Iphone is like having an office and entertainment centre in your pocket.

jimslip wrote:

> I used to have a Blackberry. I changed to an Iphone which is
> brilliant especially if you have other Macs. An Iphone is like
> having an office and entertainment centre in your pocket.
>


I'm a Mac user and therefore tried an iPhone a while back (the 3G). What a pile of shite!!!

Apart from the poor reception, poor battery life and the lack of a proper keyboard (my God I HATE touchscreens!!! How the fuck are you supposed to "Type 1 to listen to your messages..." when the touchscreen constantly locks itself?) You can't send text messages to a large group of people (one of my groups has just over 300 contacts) unless you buy 3rd party apps (that don't actually work very well) when almost every other phone on the market allows you to do so. After 3 days of absolute misery (I spent a whole day wandering around London using public transport... after 5 calls and a few messages the battery was almost dead by 11.30am and no where to re-charge!!!) I sent it back and got my old Blackberry out. Now that's what I call a phone! It can make phone calls without any problems (1-0 to BB over iPhone). Even after making dozens of calls and sending and receiving hundreds of text messages I can easily go a couple of days without re-charging (2-0 to BB)I can send one text message to a group of 300+ by clicking the group rather than having to add each individual person to the "To:" list (3-0 to BB) It has a proper keyboard rather than a touch screen (4-0 to BB) If I want to use it as a camera (and why the hell would anyone want to use a phone as a camera is beyond me... that's what cameras are for!!!) then my BB has a flash (5-0 to BB). Furthermore, it has a free messaging service I can use to contact other BB owners... no other phone allows you to message anyone for free (6-0 to BB). One past BB problem was that RiMs software didn't work very well on Macs... that's now been resolved, so the iPhone doesn't even get the chance of a late consolation goal.

As far as I'm aware, my Blackberry is the only phone with a proper keyboard (and no fucking annoying touchscreen) on which I can store the name, home address, business address, email address, home phone, business phone, mobile phone, birthdays, anniversaries, web addresses plus almost unlimited custom fields and other notes for over 2000 contacts, that allows me to compose a text message and, with one click, add a "group" to the recipient list, on which (if I so desired) I can also receive emails, browse the web, write reports (including spreadsheets) etc.

iPhones... the tool for tools!! !laugh! !laugh! !laugh!

"iPhones... the tool for tools!"

Blackberry's....the choice of chavs.

They are fucking useless, tiny screen, unreadable, no ability to zoom photo's, crap camera, you have to have a BB account, and they are fucking ugly.

Samsung Galaxy S11 pisses on both the iphone and ANY BB. I.M.H.O of course..

When was the last time you used a touchscreen, Bob - 2008?

I agree with you on the older iPhones (iPhone, iPhone3G, iPhone3GS). They were just for people who wanted to show you they had an iphone. Blackberries have always had better battery life but that was mainly due to the underpowered CPUs. The downside of that was that your phone slowed to a crawl and had to be reset every 3-6 months.....that is unless you only used it for phone/text/email. Once people started downloading more apps the hardware couldn't cope. You saw that once RIM stared producing Blackberries with 1Ghz+ processors people started complaining of battery life.

[quote]my God I HATE touchscreens!!! How the fuck are you supposed to "Type 1 to listen to your messages..." when the touchscreen constantly locks itself?[/quote]

I'm sure you can do this with all touchscreen phones. I know on my old Nexus One that there's a motion sensor so when I hold it to my face during a call it locks the screen so my cheek doesn't start pressing things. If I bring it away from my face the screen turns back on automatically and there's a big virtual button that says 'Dialpad' which I press to get to the.....erm......dialpad! I'm sure Apple have a similar feature.

[quote]After 3 days of absolute misery (I spent a whole day wandering around London using public transport... after 5 calls and a few messages the battery was almost dead by 11.30am and no where to re-charge!!!) I sent it back and got my old Blackberry out. Now that's what I call a phone! It can make phone calls without any problems (1-0 to BB over iPhone). Even after making dozens of calls and sending and receiving hundreds of text messages I can easily go a couple of days without re-charging (2-0 to BB)[/quote]

You've made it 2-0 for the same reason (battery life)! Stop cheating! I agree with you about the battery life of iPhones though, but for different reasons. Most people don't care about how many days battery life they get. As long as it gets them through the day so they can charge it overnight they're content. I'd say if they're looking at pics on facebook, or reading the news on the Guardian website then a nice screen is more important, along with a fast enough processor so things aren't sluggish and stuttering. So the score is more like 1-1 because it depends on what a person sees as more important. One day's battery life is only an issue if you're away for the weekend and have forgotten your charger. In this Android has a few advantages over the iPhone. Firstly, Android phones let you take the battery out so you can carry a replacement in your pocket. If you've forgotten that as well then 99% of Android phones use the standardized microUSB connector. You can pick one of these chargers up at a market stall, or independent mobile shop for less than a fiver. And since most Blackberries, Samsungs, Motorolas and a fair few Nokias and SonyEricssons use microUSB connectors you can find someone at the hotel/B&B who has a charger you can borrow. Apple still use their crappy proprietary connector and you cannot replace the battery which makes you kinda screwed.

[quote]I can send one text message to a group of 300+ by clicking the group rather than having to add each individual person to the "To:" list (3-0 to BB)[/quote]

You can do this in Android and have been able to for at least two years. And without 3rd-party apps. If you've sorted all your contacts out into groups then it's easy. Dunno about iPhone but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt (2-1 Blackberry).

[quote]It has a proper keyboard rather than a touch screen (4-0 to BB)[/quote]

I find typing on a touchscreen easier. A lot of people do so this is a personal thing and thus a tie (3-2 Blackberry).

[quote]If I want to use it as a camera (and why the hell would anyone want to use a phone as a camera is beyond me... that's what cameras are for!!!) then my BB has a flash (5-0 to BB).[/quote]

I'm sort of the other way around. Why would anyone buy a camera these days when they have one in their pocket? I'm not talking professional quality pics but snaps. Holiday snaps with the mates/girlfriend, or when you're out in the club/bar? You're walking down the road and see something amusing that you want to share..... Three years running while in Vegas I always pack a little camera and always leave it in my room. My sister went away this and last summer and both times they never bothered with the camera they packed and just snapped away on their phones and uploaded them to facebook. I think you're seeing this purely from a photographer's standpoint and not your average Joe. Then there's the flash thing. The last two iPhones have had flash as do 90% of Android phones, which have better cameras than any Blackberry on the market. I don't like Apple but they win this round (3-3). Check out >

[quote]Furthermore, it has a free messaging service I can use to contact other BB owners... no other phone allows you to message anyone for free (6-0 to BB).[/quote]

You mean BBM? BBM isn't free because it uses data. You have to pay for data with you contract. Since most people with smart phones have some sort of data plan anyway you could say it was free but then again with an iPhone you could use MSN, Google Chat and many other message services totally free. And with MSN or Google Chat you can talk between clients, which BBM users cannot do. In other words, as an Android user I can talk to other Android users, iPhone users, Nokia Meebo users, Windows Phone 7 users and Blackberry users via MSN or Google Chat. If you're in BBM you can only talk to other BBM users. Great for security if you're Richard Branson talking to the boardroom but for 99% of other people it's used as a social tool that restricts how social you can be. I see that as a negative but because of the security I'll call it a tie (4-4).

[quote]As far as I'm aware, my Blackberry is the only phone with a proper keyboard (and no fucking annoying touchscreen) on which I can store the name, home address, business address, email address, home phone, business phone, mobile phone, birthdays, anniversaries, web addresses plus almost unlimited custom fields and other notes for over 2000 contacts, that allows me to compose a text message and, with one click, add a "group" to the recipient list, on which (if I so desired) I can also receive emails, browse the web, write reports (including spreadsheets) etc.[/quote]

Gmail can do all that and more. I mean, you have a Gmail account, right? Android syncs all my Google services OTA and seamlessly. I just log in with my Gmail username and password and the phone downloads all my contacts, emails, calandar events etc and syncs them automatically. If I lose my phone I don't lose my contacts or anything. It can sync with Google Chrome so it will sync all my bookmarks and passwords if I want, and I have access to all my Google Docs of coarse. Any contacts that have addresses will automatically show up in the Navigation search if I use the free, inbuilt Sat Nav. And unlike Apple and Blackberry I don't have to connect a single cable to any PC or Mac and don't have to download any daft software or dodgy drivers. I'm pretty sure Apple are catching up with the OTA syncing as well so the score (I know it was a BB vs Apple thing) is pretty close and will probably go down to personal preference rather than an objective, fair, 6-0 thrashing you summed up!

What is sure is that RIM is dying fast while Apple are continually growing (not as fast as Android obviously). If RIM don't pull their finger out and you keep up this Luddite attitude to anything new you'll end up like one of these old men that swear by the advantages of the VHS recorder over a Sky+ box, and romantically reminisce about the days you could drink and drive over the Christmas period, put someone through a shop window and just class it as 'one of those things'. !laugh!

I agree, I sent back my first Iphone back because I hated the touch screen. So did Lara send her 2 iphones back for the same reason. However both of us have been converted, I used a pen at first but I just got used to it in the end. The great thing about the Iphone 4 is that it integrates with your other Macs (if you have Snow Leopard).

So for example if you are one of those stupid people like me, who believe in paying for your music or movies, if you get something on your Iphone it finds its way onto your other Macs as well. You may mock and scoff, but there is an App for everything, for example I found an Autocue teleprompter, for FREE, for those who don't know, this kind of thing would have cost ?100's in tne PC/ Windows world I also got a VTR clapperboard for FREE. Also like their big brothers, Iphones don't freeze or fuck up.........They just work!

Give the Iphone another try!

"but there is an App for everything,"

I have an app on my phone that can spot a higgs bosun from four miles off!, bet you can't do that with a BB.

Thats amazing. You lot must have a different iPhone to me because I absolutely love mine, to read books on the train, top up my oyster card (I cant believe I had to get one in the end) got an electronic clapperboard that absolutely works, remote cam cctv's, remote for my tv, sound system, coutour POV cams, pay my bills, learn the piano and so much more o top of the basic stuff....Only thing it cant do for me is take a piss but I'm sure the boffins at Apple are working on an app that works with a robot that can do that eventually..Just for fun of course.

The thing that really amazes me is the apps work. I love the iPhone. Steve Jobs is looking down from us in Heaven and smiling and I bet hes thinking...At least I was relevant to the world...So long suckers! Ha ha haaaa! I bet he has 12 virgins in white wispy veils riding him all the way to heaven in a big fiery chariot vto a big fat feast held in his honour

Wh wouldve thought you could do so much with a smart phone....Hell I still play Pac Man on it when im standing in a queue. You all should try it the next time your in a queue and watch things go faster....Thats an app in itself within an app.