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Those of us who can remember the dim and distant past of May 2010 will recall that the government plan was to introduce unprecedented cuts in spending mainly in the public sector which would gain confidence and support in the markets and investment community and that as a result, the private sector would more than compensate in new jobs for the job losses in the public sector.

Back in May 2010, Boy George was told he was pissing in the wind with this plan and so it has transpired - 110,000 people sacked in the public sector in the 3 months to June, 41,000, mostly casual, low paid jobs created in the private sector during the same period.

In 2009, Osborne said that "quantitive easing is the last resort of desperate governments where all other policies have failed". What did we have announced earlier this year? 75 billions worth of quantitative easing.

Cable made loads of noises about hammering the banks. Has this forced the banks to loan to small businesses in the quantity and at the rates required? No. Project Merlin, the weak and toothless attempt to control the banks has failed so Osborne has to announce on Tuesday, government underwritten lending to small businesss instead in "credit easing"

Osborne was very dismissive of subsiding work for young people e.g. Labour's Future Jobs Fund and closed it down asap. What did Cleggie announce last week? The Youth Contract which is very, very similar to the Future Jobs Fund that they stopped last year.

Osborne slashed a huge number of infrastructure projects on getting into office. So what are they doing now? Scrabbling around to bring forward as many infrastructure projects as they can to try and generate some jobs.

What is beyond question is that Boy George, as expected, is completely out of his depth.

Maybe Boy George could get Ed Balls in to be his adviser so that Osborne can re-introduce more quickly other Labour measures in his new Plan B?

!wink!
D

My view is in spite of all you say and indeed it is all correct, if New Labour had won the last election, we would still all be neck deep in doo doo. The only difference would be that the silence would be deafening from the Unions, the students, the public sector workers and as for the balanced and healthy criticism of them on this forum? !tumbleweed!!tumbleweed!!tumbleweed!

NL supporters would all be blaming, "World events" and "The Banks" and of course The Tories, for our predicament. Let's all admit it, New Labour ALWAYS get an easy ride, for God's sake they can even take us into an illegal, brutal, war resulting in the deaths of 10's thousands of innocents and no NL supporter dares complain! Lol

A typical New Labour supporter being told that there's just the slightest possibility that their party might have fucked things up:

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"No! No! No! It's NEVER our fault, la, la, la, di da da da da!"

Jimslip,new labour died when blair left. Get over it. When labour win in 2015 it will be labour,not new labour.

Well knock me down with a feather, cover me in melted chocolate and roll me in hundreds and thousands! When did the sneaky buggers get rid of the , "New" out of, "New Labour?" No one told me! I suppose after 15 years they wouldn't be , "New" anymore, but what about, "Slightly Worn Labour" or "Shop-soiled Labour?", or even better, "Re-furbished Labour"!happy!

As for your prediction that New Labour, errm sorry, Labour, will storm to victory in the next election, I'm not so sure. For the electorate it will be a little like standing at a crossroads, looking up at a sign. One sign points to, "Disaster" and the other points to, "Calamity". I reckon it will be another hung parliament personally.

Whoever wins you can be sure of one thing, the stinking rich will be still squirrelling away ?Billons out of the country and not paying a penny in tax!

"My view is in spite of all you say and indeed it is all correct, if New Labour had won the last election, we would still all be neck deep in doo doo. "

I agree Jim in the sense that we would still have a stonking great deficit/debt arising from the over-reliance on financial services and the subsequent investment banking collapse.

Where I think it would have been different is that the measures that the Tories are only just bringing back now after scrapping and/or ridiculing them 18 months ago e.g. loads of infrastructure projects that were due to happen in 1 to 2 years, "credit" easing, the youth contract etc. a Labour government would have carried on with.

What is unforgivable and is a second difference is that I doubt if Labour would have gone round crushing consumer confidence with the resulting collapse in retail like the Tories did, by saying - we are on the point of collapse, we are just like Greece, unless we make all of these cuts, corner shop UK will go bust etc etc etc.

In short what Labour predicted would happen with the Tory economic plans has happened and the Tories have wasted 18 months before starting to try and put it right.

But as I said at the start, we would still have a stonking deficit. And there would still have been a lot of people losing jobs under Labour.

Cheers
D

Yes. it's strange how it's suddenly just' Labour' (detoxifying the brand) and the Blair Broon legacy, but nobody ever forgets the' Thatcher Tories', even though she hasn't been in power for 21years, so No 6, get over it, Thatchers tories don't exist, and that's coming from someone who fucking hated her anyway.
It's still NEW LABOUR with the old dogs dictating from the background, windbags and freeloaders like kinnock, Mandleson, Campbell, Blair et al, they havn't gone away.

[quote]Where I think it would have been different is that the measures that the Tories are only just bringing back now after scrapping and/or ridiculing them 18 months ago e.g. loads of infrastructure projects that were due to happen in 1 to 2 years, "credit" easing, the youth contract etc. a Labour government would have carried on with.[/quote]

I don't know how you have the cheek.

Lizard wrote:

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> It's still NEW LABOUR with the old dogs dictating from the
> background, windbags and freeloaders like kinnock, Mandleson,
> Campbell, Blair et al, they havn't gone away.

Lol, However I believe Tony Blair is far too busy bring "Peace and harmony" to the Middle East and all those trips to the bank with shopping trolleys full of cash, are so time consuming, he hardly has a spare second to pull the strings of New Labour, errrm I mean, Labour, from the sidelines.

I suspect Mandy is keeping him informed of any dodgy money making deals that may come along! Isn't Kinnock raking huge piles of wonga in the European Parliament?!wink!

These New Labour, errrm Labour "Men of the people" or should I say, "Champions of the working class", really warm the cockles of my heart, they are so selfless, so charitable, so, so, caring............I'm just off to have a good sob!

Kinnock's finest moments: Well aaaaaaaalright, well aaaaaaaaaright, Sheffield is still recovering from it, that and the priceless stumble on the beach whilst looking for crabs, he could have just checked his underpants, he'd have found thousands. He would have made a great leader......Not.

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