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Bob Crow Speaking In Trafalgar Square Yesterday
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:22 pm
by planeterotica
I was in Trafalgar Square yesterday and caught the end of the 2011 Jarrow march, here are a few clips that i shot, please watch them as i do believe that society has now moved away from the Thatcher era..
Bob Crow leader of the RMT union
A young female Jarrow marcher
A girl singing after the march
Re: Bob Crow Speaking In Trafalgar Square Yesterday
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:48 pm
by number 6
Bobs a great guy,totally commited to doing his best for the people he represents. Im sure we will have the usual trade uinion bashers coming on saying hes a hypocrite living in a big house etc. I couldnt care less if he lives in a mansion,he does his best to look after the workers he represents,thats why they keep electing him. Qell done Bob.
Re: Bob Crow Speaking In Trafalgar Square Yesterday
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:34 pm
by planeterotica
number 6 wrote:
> Bobs a great guy,totally commited to doing his best for the
> people he represents. Im sure we will have the usual trade
> uinion bashers coming on saying hes a hypocrite living in a big
> house etc. I couldnt care less if he lives in a mansion,he does
> his best to look after the workers he represents,thats why they
> keep electing him. Qell done Bob.
planeterotica wrote:
I met Bob briefly yesterday and he came across as a decent bloke, i am not a trade unionist apart from when i built dugeness nuclear power station back in the 60s which was a closed shop, One Out All Out..
But i do believe that young people must have a future as far as jobs go, after all its they who will fund our pensions, not the 1% they just look after themselves...
Graham
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:11 pm
by David Johnson
" i do believe that society has now moved away from the Thatcher era.."
Well, one thing I would say is that the government and capitalist system we have today is far more extremist than under Thatcher.
The reasons for this are:
1. Thatcher laid the seeds for this current mess with the huge privatisation programme affecting the utilities in particular, and the deregulation of the city. The results of these measures have been huge increases in the costs of heating, lighting, water etc, large increases in basic foodstuff prices resulting from hedge funds piling into commodities as an alternative to stocks and shares to make money.
2. As globalisation developed enormously in the last 30 years, capitalism has become more and more extremist in its attempts to maximise profit. So the offshoring of profits, transfer of hq's to post boxes in countries with extremely low tax rates etc etc has increased incredibly.
3. The influence of big business in our so-called democracy has developed exponentially via the lobbying process to the point that the Tory party is now virtually owned by the City of London - funding from hedge funds, investment funds etc represents half of the funding for the Tories since Cameron became PM.
Subsequent Labour and Tory governments after Thatcher have done little to redress the balance which is why we have such an extreme, right wing political agenda backed by an 80% Tory media.
THatcher would not have dreamt of introducing the biggest cutbacks in NHS spending (efficiency savings to use TOryspeak) ever witnessed by a western country, according to ex-Tory Health Minister, Stephen Dorrell at the same time as having the biggest reorganisation ever seen in NHS history. A reorganisation which is totally undemocratic in the sense that there was virtually nothing about it in the Tory manifesto.
Although I admire the aspirations of the people outside St Pauls, they represent zero threat to the extremist UK government. This is reflected in the fact that they have been allowed to stay. If they were a threat they would have been attacked by the police by now and if it had been a no alternative situation, killed.
The rich and powerful will not give up their privileges in this country without a fight.
CHeers
D
Re: David
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:45 pm
by planeterotica
David Johnson wrote:
> " i do believe that society has now moved away from the
> Thatcher era.."
>
> Well, one thing I would say is that the government and
> capitalist system we have today is far more extremist than
> under Thatcher.
>
planeterotica wrote:
David and so are the protestors who have a lot of MPs backing them, at St Pauls they tell me that Tescos have been donating out of date food rather than feed it to the pigs, dosnt this speak volumes for our caring society...
Re: David
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:28 pm
by David Johnson
"so are the protestors who have a lot of MPs backing them,"
Actions speak louder than words. What have the 18 months of Tory/Lib Dem government done to meet the objectives/aspirations of the protestors at St Pauls?
"at St Pauls they tell me that Tescos have been donating out of date food rather than feed it to the pigs, dosnt this speak volumes for our caring society..."
This should be a matter of course rather than a "pr" type event. The majority of supermarkets now have large steel fences around their skips containing food that they are throwing out to prevent locals helping themselves.
I can recommend a book called Tescopoly which gives a less than glowing account of Tesco's global way of doing business.
A website of the same name about this slighly less than wonderful supermarket chain.
http://www.tescopoly.org/index.php?opti ... temid=196/
Cheers
D
Re: David look and listen
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:35 pm
by planeterotica
I followed a protest from St Pauls yesterday purely for the reason of filming it, it was scheduled to finish at the Houses of Parliament but they were advised that it would be unlawfull because of the one km prohibited limit bought in by the previous labour goverment and therefore it would have to end at Trafalgar Square.
Until that point the march had been very peacefull with both police and protestors enjoying banter, the march went past the square and attempted to gain entry to Whitehall which was met by a police barricade.
The protesters then outwitted the police by doing a very fast backward movement and took a diversion through St James park and ended up at Parliament much to the surprise of the police who were there on duty at the time and could do nothing to stop them.
The thing is these protesters could have stormed the Parliament buildings had they indended on November 5th with their guy fawkes mask as at that point they were in control, they chose not to do so as it was still a peacefull protest and all the police could do was to put on the kettle which left the protestors sill in charge of parliament but no way out, of course old planet talked his way out of the kettle but thats another story !wink!
I must say the only two young police officers who managed to keep up with the march did very well but they were sweating like pigs at the end and completely knackered, especially after the chase through St James park, i myself who covered the march from start to finish including the chase through St James faired slightly better even though im in my 60s.
So a note to whoever is in charge of the Met these days, get you officers a lot fitter as i do believe there will be more of this to come, hopefully peacfull as i do believe peacefull protest gain much more than violence ever can.
Re: David look and listen
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:20 pm
by David Johnson
"David look and listen"
I am. It's just that I don't agree with your view.
"as i do believe peacefull protest gain much more than violence ever can."
Like the 1 million person march against the Iraq war?
Cheers
D
Re: Planet E
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:38 pm
by jimslip
Planet wrote:
"I followed a protest from St Pauls yesterday purely for the reason of filming it, it was scheduled to finish at the Houses of Parliament but they were advised that it would be unlawfull because of the one km prohibited limit bought in by the previous labour goverment and therefore it would have to end at Trafalgar Square."
If New Labour were still in power, they would have extended the exclusion zone around Parliament, for protests, from 1KM to the M25 by now! !laugh!
Some Clips Of The March
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:16 am
by planeterotica
Some clips of the march from St Pauls to Parliament.
The march is prevented from going along Whitehall.
So the protestors diverted to St James Park where the police were just a few seconds to late to stop them.
And despite the efforts of the police to stop them they finally make it through to parliament: