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Hi guys,

I'm doing an MBA and I've got an assignment about the Music Industry and where the future of the music industry lies.

The main problem with the industry right now is obviously piracy.
How can an industry make money selling a product that can largely be found for free on the internet?

Naturally I considered different industries such as newspapers, facebook, internet gaming, etc. and the obvious way they make money is advertising.

However Pornography is clearly another industry that has the same issues and problems as music whereby you can't just slap an advert in the middle with the hopes of making some money from it!

So where does pornography make it's money? How does it combat piracy/free internet access to porn? Where does the future of pornography lie?

Also if anyone has some facts and figures on porn sales they would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
jrc334

Go to a website called 'google' and put in 'porn sales'... you may get a few sites.... then your job for your MBA is to read them and then discuss.This is not a zoo.

Apologies is I've offended or made it sound like I'm using you guys, although I guess to be honest I guess I am ultimately.

The only problem is google searches I find tend to be based on opinion, stereotyping and prejudices, with no real knowledge or statistics to back there claims up.

I thought asking a community actually involved in the industry would churn up some facts, over opinions.

Once again apologies if I've offended anyone in my enquiries.

Its weird when people come here o ask questions that they get handled in a derisory way as this. Im no surprised why people think the adult industry is a hostile place

I could tell you the answer but then I would have to kill ya...Ha ha..Ops pot calling kettle black

Porn stil makes money. The music industry still makes money. Not as much as it used to back in the good old days before recent years but therer are people who do prefer to buy dvds and cds and join sites they trust,

The key to it is regular updates. people are so used to being ripped off by porn sites which ius why it doesnt do itself any favours. Who can differentiate a decent site from a dodgy one?

One that updates regularly and on time for starters Another is plenty of content to make the surfer feel they are getting a decent amount of content on their site.

There are still enough people to make a living from. Its not as if memberships are expensive. The future looks like it will get harder as well but then this business has always been evolving since I started out in it.

The recession hasnt helped either but put enough money in a mans pocket and he has a bit of disposable income then many of them wil lreturn to paying for the porn that they like and getting the rest for free or chop and change as I suspect a lot of them do.

Contrary to belief a lot of people still dont know how to work the bit totrrent clients or know about tube sites and in time that may chanfe when the die hard generation phases out and the young un used to everything for free take over

Its weird bu we had a couple of girls come to the uKAP stand in Berlin asking the same thing for their dissertations

Hope this helps

Thanks, mate.

So to boil it down to bare bones,

Is it just case of porn still makes money because people don't know they can get it for free?

It's not from any innovations that could be reused in other industries?

That's surely a huge worry for the entire industry as yeah like you said when the "older" generation of internet users dies out you're buggered?!

Although that said following the porn sales google link, I did find some figures for up until 2006, which show the biggest grossing countries included China,
South Korea & Japan, numbers 1,2 and three respectively! And also Taiwan, Philippines, Czech Rep which I found really quite surprising and also that the industry has been growing up until 2006 which was hugely surprising.

But I guess somewhen around 2006-08 is when the tube sites started popping up, so all those figures are now irrelevant.

Be fair Mr Mcfister

If he puts porn into google the poor guy will never see daylight again!!

The porn industry is in some ways it's own worst enemy. It fails to speak with one voice, having no recognised spokesperson. How can it complain about tube sites etc when it allows a not too dissimilar practice to be carried out by licensed sex shops ie the buying and then subsequent exchanging of dvd's ? meaning the store doesn't have to purchase as much new product as it has a revolving door policy on that which it already stocks. You can't do this at hmv with a new cd, dfs with a new sofa etc so why is this peculiarity not only allowed but encouraged. Then you've got the whole posting fiasco. You can get a disc in the mail if the order originates in another country but not solely within the uk ? restriction of trade anyone? I know one eyed jack is going to say this is old ground but it may not be to you.

Imagine the porn industry as you would a man trudging through the desert dying of thirst, being feasted on by hungry vultures as he takes his last faltering steps. In this gloomy vision, the vultures represent the millions of freebie hunters that plunder the net for everything they can find. Of course once they've picked the corpse clean, they'll be nothing left to plunder. Then they'll be on forums like this screaming and complaining at the lack of new porn!

My own belief is that we are facing our darkest hour and in case no one has noticed the whole World is also facing economic disaster. However not all is lost. This idea that everyone in the World steals their entertainment, unless they are OAP's, is total bollocks. Look at ITunes it has gone ballistic over the last few years. Presumably the leeches of porn would say, "Yeah but they're all dumb wankers, cos they can get their stuff for free!" You could have made the same point during the riots, but 99% of the local populations of the riot areas didn't say to themselves, "Hey, great no cops around, I'll just go and nick a load of stuff from the shops cos only wankers pay for stuff, like!" This is because most people are basically decent.

I believe all that is happening is a "Re alignment" of our core market. In the old days it was, "White van man" that drove the porn market, now they don't want to pay for porn. However a new market has emerged, which is maybe more moneyed and middle class, they actually WANT to pay for their porn. It's just they are more selective about what they want. They don't want to sit there ploughing through hours and hours of shite on tube sites, just 'cos its free", they are happy to join maybe just one site that floats their boat and stick with it.

So on a positive note porn is simply going through a metamorphosis, yes there will be a cull of websites and I would hate to predict the lay of the land in 5 years time, but I think it will look pretty sparse, but there will still be a porn industry, there will still be pirates and there will still be leeches............but just a load less stuff to watch!

If you admit on most forums that you buy porn either on dvd or downloading legally then you get one of two replies either a) why when you can get all the porn you'd need from illegal downloading or streaming sites or b) up it (so that they can get what you've just paid maybe around ?10 for on dvd for free).

You are correct, but unlike the music and movie industries porn cant make extra money from merchandising, itunes, re-releases etc. The porn freebie blood suckers are actually KILLING the industry. They are more deadly to us than any anti-porn zeolot or law, they are the REAL enemy of porn, whilst they masquerade as porn supporters on forums like this, they are slowly but surely destroying us!