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Another strange fact or 2.

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:47 am
by jimslip
I just remembered this and thought , "Hmmm". Do you remember how the "Official version' of 9/11 told us that the Twin Towers were brought down by an enormously hot fire started by the fuel of the aircraft. This fire was so hot, that it melted the steel girders in the building which then gave way. Strangely this fire moved in a, downwards direction, which I don't believe is a characteristic of fires, because of the updraft in tall buildings. Anyway, stay with me here, so here we have a fire running at 2777 degrees F, torching everything in its path from solid steel to people to papers to filing cabinets, in fact EVERYTHING, apart from one thing,

The passport of Satam Al Suqami, which was found happily nuzzling in the rubble, it must have, as if by magic, fluttered down from the very top of the WTC, through all the flames and came to rest waiting to be discovered! lol,



Oh and you thought you knew the identity of those darstadly hijackers? Well you didn't:



Oh and what about this story? I rememeber reading about it at the time and thinking, "Hmmm."



!sherlock!!sherlock!!sherlock!


Re: Another strange fact or 2.

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:35 pm
by Alex L
Interesting links.

Has anyone seen any links to any plausible answers as to why, given that the pentagon must be one of the most CCTV covered buildings in the world, it took years for the US government to come up with a bit of footage, which does not actually show a comercial airliner hiting that building!

Very odd in a string of oddities!


Alex

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:38 pm
by David Johnson
THe Pentagon refused initially to release the video because they had handed it over to the Justice Department as part of criminal proceedings.
In the case of the Twin Towers there were obviously a number of civilian video takers at the time.

It was only as a result of a Freedom of Information case brought in December 2004 that the video was released.

Here's a link to some evidence including a number of eye witness accounts

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1



Cheers
D

Re: Alex

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:06 pm
by Arginald Valleywater
Paper burns at 451 Fahrenheit if my Ray Bradbury serves me well.....and aircraft fuel, like petrol, burns very quickly, unlike diesel which stays alight for much longer but burns cooler.

Not really

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:14 pm
by andy at handiwork
The girders didn't melt Jim. They didn't need to. The heat caused them to loose their strength and the weight of the floors above did the rest. Over 90% of its strength is lost at 800C. Simples.

Re: Not really

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:35 pm
by RoddersUK
I still don't understand why helicopters weren't used to rescue those poor people trapped above the level of the aircraft stikes.
I mean to say, New York must have been awash with all types of helicopters from news filming choppers to private to military. So, where were they?


Re: Osama/ Navy Seals, all.....killed!

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:06 am
by jimslip
The Navy Seas who "Killed" Osama have all been involved in a helicopter crash and all are now dead, see link.

Also check out Benazir Bhutto's BBC interview in 2007 (Before she was disposed of), first version she says, Osama was "murdered", this is then removed in a later BBC edited version.




Re: Osama/ Navy Seals, all.....killed!

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:56 am
by David Johnson

Re: Another strange fact or 2.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:36 am
by mrmcfister
There are two things I can tell you about Conspiracy Theorists

One ..it's like arguing with a religeous nutter that god don't exist
Two.. they are all twats ..oh here's a third
Three..they think they are important..oops a fourth
Four ..they are unimportant twats

Re: Another strange fact or 2.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:00 am
by JamesW
"Oh and you thought you knew the identity of those darstadly hijackers? Well you didn't:

http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/dec ... ities.html"


A fairly feeble effort by jimslip on this one.

Some of the hijackers had pretty common names. For example, the Saudi pilots Saeed Alghamdi and Waleed Alshehri who both denied being hijackers weren't the Saeed Alghamdi and Waleed Alshehri the FBI were referring to. They just had the same names.

The Ahmed al-Nami who "had never even heard of Pennsylvania where the plane I was supposed to have hijacked" wasn't in fact the same person as the Ahmed al-Nami named by the FBI.

Abdulrahman al-Omari was an error by the FBI, but they amended it to
Abdulaziz al-Omari quite quickly, exhonerating Abdulrahman al-Omari. However another Abdulaziz al-Omari then protested his innocence, but was clearly not the man the FBI had in mind as although the FBI's suspect was also called Abdulaziz al-Omari his photo didn't match the innocence protesting Abdulaziz al-Omari.