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I refer of course to the strange timing of the arrest of Ms Brooks. I treat the usual run of 'conspiracies' (moon, Kelly, Twin Towers etc) with the patronising condescension they clearly deserve, but here's one that involves a small circle of senior managers (not thousands of people) covering their arses, with unquestioning minions knowing what is required of them without actually participating in the cover-up. If it is found that the decision to arrest her today came from the very top, ie the commissioner, then it only goes to reinforce the opinion of many that he has to go. By questioning her under oath the police are trying to find out what light she can shed on THEIR incompetence and uselessness; information that can now be withheld from the rest of us for many months.

But once the police have made a decision that they're sure a crime has been committed, and that they have enough evidence to arrest somebody, isn't it then normal procedure to make that arrest asap?

That is what they will say. However, she was clearly not going anywhere, and they were well aware that she was up in front of the select committee on tuesday. They have now closed off some criticism for the forseeable future. There was no reason to have not waited until tuesday evening unless it was a deliberate attempt at news management by Plod.

" I treat the usual run of 'conspiracies' (moon, Kelly, Twin Towers etc) with the patronising condescension they clearly deserve,"

You "conspiracy haters" make me laugh, no doubt before this Murdoch scandal had been revealed "officially", you would have scoffed at any posting or thread on youtube or anywhere else, attempting to expose the hacking story, as "Conspiracy rubbish". (If it suited you to do so)

So when does a "Conspiracy" cease to become "conspiracy" and become fact? When you are fed the same information by people you believe you can trust or are from your own political, "Camp". If these same people chose not to reveal the real facts in a case, for whatever reason, you would never ask a further question or ever be suspicious, why? Because any information you find that doesn't come from sources you, "Trust" you would deem as "Conspiracy" and treat it with "The patronising condescension they clearly deserve!"

So let's thank God, Murdoch is hated by his rivals, because this is the only reason you are reading about this scandal. If his rivals had been up to no good as well, the whole story could have been kept silent and remained a "Conspiracy", aired by a few distruntled whistle-blowers, who of course you would have treated, "with the patronising condescension they clearly deserve,"

Don't be so ready to mock those with an enquiring mind. The internet and the forums that you are so ready shout abuse at, are the only places where whistle-blowers inside the "system" have a voice. Why do you think authorities all over the World would love to control and censor the internet if given a chance?

No Jim I would certainly not have dismissed the hacking story as rubbish, for the simple reason that it is the sort of thing that NI was clearly doing to get the stories it did. It was clear to anybody who cared to look that the NOTW was involved in all sorts of shenanigans.

Its also important to differentiate between what is patently shown to be fantasy and that which is plausible. As for when a conspiracy becomes fact, I would say very rarely.

I dont mock those with an enquiring mind, but enquiring minds are not what is involved very often. Rather it is a simple refusal to believe anything that comes from 'the man' to use a somewhat antiquated term.

jimslip wrote:
>
> So let's thank God, Murdoch is hated by his rivals, because
> this is the only reason you are reading about this scandal. If
> his rivals had been up to no good as well, the whole story
> could have been kept silent and remained a "Conspiracy", aired
> by a few disgruntled whistle-blowers, who of course you would
> have treated, "with the patronising condescension they clearly
> deserve,"
>
His rivals are or at least were up to it as well...

Hi Andy,
If you believe that News Corp have been operating as a Mafia in this country (Jimbo agrees with me so it must be correct, mustn't it?) then one of the key activities carried out by Mafiosi is entrapment of senior figures such as policemen and politicians.

One of the things that Stephenson resigned over yesterday was the ?12K gratuity from Champneys. Now personally, I would have thought that accepting ?12K from a businessman was a no-no in itself.

However, not only was Wallis, the ex-deputy editor of the NOTW under Coulson, doing the pr work for Champneys (the very guy who was great mates with John Yates and had been vetted by Yates prior to taking a ?1000 a day consultancy job at the Met) but there were other very close links between Champneys and News International.

Apparently Rebekah Brooks was a very frequent visitor. The NOTW and the Sun ran various promotions, two for the price of one etc etc for Champneys as well as running a number of very positive stories about celebs having great stays there. Brooks was at the wedding of the MD of Champneys.

And surprise, surprise, Rebekah Brooks' hubby, Charlie runs an alternative medicine centre at Champneys which Stephenson used.

So,
Step 1 Invite Stephenson to a ?12K freebie.
Step 2 If he accepts, file it away for future use.
Step 3 If the Met stops playing ball, release the info.
Step 4 Curtains for Stephenson.

CHeers
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They would say it if it was true, too.

Just as I'm writing this I'm reading this article>> .

She'll be getting the full english over the croissant after all.

They would say it if it was true, too.

Just as I'm writing this I'm reading this article>> .

She'll be getting the full english over the croissant after all.

"Rebekah Brooks' arrest damaged her reputation, says her lawyer"

The brass neck of the legal profession. And this was the person who admitted before a parliamentary committee, years ago,

"We have paid police officers for information".

She was doing it that often, she had obviously forgotten it was illegal until Coulson who was sat next to her, shut her up!

Cheers
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