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Cameron's mission: Destroy the NHS
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:13 am
by number 6
You can see by the look in his eye he is determined to do it,and knows he has 4 years. I fear the spiv will succeed.
Number 6
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:46 pm
by David Johnson
Yup, we don't know all the details to the nth degree at the moment, but this definitely looks to me like the creeping privatisation of the NHS in England .
Cheers
D
Re: Number 6
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:12 pm
by number 6
Of course we could have a general election in a months time if the lib dems discovered any integrity,but pigs might fly.
Stephen Dorrell, last Tory Health Minister
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:26 pm
by David Johnson
Yeah, it comes to something when not only do the organisations that represent the people working in the NHS, 6 unions, General Medical Council who represent doctors, the Royal College of Nursing, the Patients Association, Tory MPs such as Sarah Woolston who worked as a GP are against Lansley's measures on the grounds that they are too fast, too soon and wont meet their objectives, but even Stephen Dorrell who was the Tory Health Minister between 95 and 97 and now is chair of the Inter Party Health Committee in Wesminister was quoted as saying that he wouldn't do what Lansley is proposing.
Mind you, the American private healthcare companies seem all in favour! Funny that.
CHeers
D
Re: Stephen Dorrell, last Tory Health Minister
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:33 pm
by number 6
Dorell was a horrendous health secretary under Major,god help us all if even he,like you say,can see through these reforms. What isCameron playing at exactly? Hold on,i know,he is living out his schoolboy dream of snuffing oput health care provision for all,free at point of delivery.
Lansley bankroll
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:29 pm
by David Johnson
And here's a story from that left wing rag, the Telegraph published in January 2010.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... vider.html
And Lansley does seem to have an awful lot of chums in the private healthcare system
http://www.spinwatch.org.uk/blogs-mainm ... conference
Cheers
D
Re: Lansley bankroll
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:23 pm
by milton
"And Lansley does seem to have an awful lot of chums in the private healthcare system"
So did Alan Milburn. .....and what is he doing now?
Democracy in any meaningful sense is dead; time for the sharpened sticks.
Ian.
Re: Cameron's mission: Destroy the NHS
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:28 pm
by milton
The Corporate State
Some depressing reading if you have the time.
Ian.
Milton
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:36 pm
by David Johnson
"So did Alan Milburn. .....and what is he doing now?"
Good point. I agree with you.
When he resigned as Health Secretary in 2003 he took a ?30,000 a year job advising a venture capital company working with companies in the private health sector. So at the back of your mind, you think, mmm I wonder what went on with the company whilst he was in office.
I think that the rules on who funds you while you are a Minister with an office etc and who you work for after you leave the Cabinet need tightening up considerably.
Having said that my understanding is that Lansley's measures are going to provide the opportunity for much, much more involvement of private health care companies in the NHS than has ever been seen before. Potentially it is a completely different scale.
Cheers
D
Milton
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:58 pm
by David Johnson
Excellent stuff. I just did a quick skim read. I will look at it in more detail later.
I do think by far the biggest enemy of democracy is the multinational. The power that these companies have far outweighs those of government in many ways. Even in the biggest so-called democracies such as the USA and Britain, the room for manouevre within the framework provided by multinational control is so little, that the government and the "opposition" parties sometimes merge into being indistinguishable.
Cheers
D