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can you birch girl thugs?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:52 pm
by davey
when i read what this gang of cunts did to this poor girl i was pondering 2 questions
1 should girls like this be treated with understanding,offered counseling and gently shown the error of their ways?
or
2 get 20 strokes of the birch and 5 years in prison each?
i hope their poor victim finds the courage to rebuild her life
Davey
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:33 am
by David Johnson
Davey,
I think the punishment should fit the crime, end of.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lanc ... 316601.stm
I apologise to you Davey, for including a story where the crime perpetrators are white.
I don't want you to feel that I am railroading your thread because I realise your posts tend to be exclusively about non-white immigrants, problems caused by black people, white girls having a sense of their race by not fucking black guys etc etc.
I thought an example of white people carrying out crimes might provide a sense of balance to your posts.
Have a nice weekend!
D
Re: Davey
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:06 am
by Arginald Valleywater
Unfortunately not. Too many Nu Labor wimps undermined the criminal justice system. Give them a latte and some more benefits and they won't do it again.
Arginald
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:38 am
by David Johnson
"Too many Nu Labor wimps undermined the criminal justice system."
Crime went down substantially under the Labour government.
The fact that the murder rate in England and Wales is now the lowest for a decade at 651 murders in 2008/09 is a clear indication of the direction of the most serious violent crime.
The British Crime Survey, which is based on interviews with 40,000 people a year about their experience of crime, shows violent crime is down by 49% since 1995.
In 2010 Sir Michael Scholar, the chair of the UK Statistics Authority wrote to the then shadow home secretary, Chris Grayling, reprimanding him for his repeated claims that violence was rising saying it had the potential to damage public trust in official statistics: "The evidence from the British Crime Survey (BCS) is that there has not been an increase in respondents' experience of violent crime between the late 1990s and 2008/09:
On the other hand, the Tory Justice Minister Ken Clark is closing down prisons, slashing funding to the police and stating the short sentences for criminals should not be used.
This hardly ties in with your statement, does it?
Cheers
D
Re: Arginald
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:26 am
by BGAFD Admin
Re: Arginald
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:21 am
by Dick Moby
Read this one David
Re: Arginald
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:24 am
by number 6
One of the saddest things about Britain is the huge number of working class idiots who read the sun newspaper and watch sky news and believe it. As long as there are less immigrants and people on benefits are victimised daily they don't care about anything else. Sod the health service,education, decent living conditions,decent living wage..as long as their petty predujices are seen to be carried through by a right wing govt who loathes them.
Dick
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:00 am
by David Johnson
Hi
This just shows that you can prove anything with statistics and the interpretation thereof.
The question is would you rather believe a Labour politican writing in the Daily Mirror or a Tory politican quoted in the Daily Telegraph?
In both cases, better I would have thought to listen to the independent chair of the UK Statistics Authority who reprimanded the Tory Chris Grayling for misrepresenting the figures available and repeatedly claiming that violence was increasing.
Cheers
D
Re: Dick
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:13 am
by Dick Moby
That's just my point. You keep posting figures that support your point of view.I've done it this time to prove that other figures are available that disagree with yours.
If you want to carry on please do.
Re: Dick
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:55 am
by David Johnson
"That's just my point. You keep posting figures that support your point of view."
And my point is that a POLITICALLY INDEPENDENT chair of the UK Statistics Authority and a professional statistician disputed the Tory view in 2010.
I may be wrong but I can't ever recall quoting a Labour politician in support of a view that showed Labour in a good light which is the equivalent of what you are doing quoting the views of a Tory Shadow Home Secretary in a fervently Tory newspaper.
"I've done it this time to prove that other figures are available that disagree with yours"
That may be the case, but again I prefer the views of a professional statistician as opposed to those of someone who is clearly motivated by political point scoring whichever political party they belong to.
Cheers
D