Revolution Needed

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Revolution Needed

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When Tony Blair swept into power, new, handsome carrying that Stratocaster guitar, hob knobbed with pop stars and talked of revolution to a people that wanted change everyone expected a new Swinging England, a resurgence of the Sixties youth revolution, instead they got a public schoolboy who went to Buckingham Palace to ask the Queen permission to form a new Parliament.

Tony and Cherie went to Buckingham Palace together, equal as man and wife but submitted weakly when Cherie was told that the Queen would see Tony first.

Before the Queen Tony the ? revolutionary? went down on one knee to beg the Queen permission to form a government. After this demeaning ritual Cherie was allowed in and the Queen spoke to her briefly, afterwards they demeaned themselves further by walking backwards out of the room as the Queen does not allow her subjects to turn her back on her. It?s a good job that they didn?t trip over and I have always wondered if they sycophantically practised the art of walking backwards.

Is this how the people who voted Tony Blair into power wanted him to act on their behalf?

The UK is an anachronism and the last bastion of the class system and if it is to move forward as a modern looking state in the world then it has to have a revolution and appoint a president.

To the Americans who are reading this I was always aware that the USA was born of revolution against an English monarch and if you had lost then you would be subjects of the Queen now instead of citizens of a United States of America.

You have a written constitution guaranteeing your rights whereas the UK the mother of parliaments has none.

The Queen is the richest woman in the world and as such head of the British class system. She keeps it in place and what is said to be ?a constitutional monarchy? where the monarch has no real power, when in fact the Queen exercises more power than a cabinet minister.

The British public are said to love the Royal Family and when Princess Diana died there was an outpouring of national grief and people were crying openly in the streets...Why did they feel so close to Diana whom the Queen had already removed as a member of the royal family? Because Diana was a celebrity, a bright young sexy woman just like a shining star of stage and screen and nothing like a British royal.

Do I want to chop off their heads? Of course not but I feel that Charles ought to be offered the choice of stepping down and agreeing to a plan where the monarch is replaced by a president. The ex royal family would still be the subject of the media and if they want to be really popular the way that Diana was they ought to submit to the public life of the stars of show business and entertain the public with their images. Like Diana they would be followed everywhere and photographers with telephoto lenses would capture even their private moments.

At the last election there was a coalition government with a liberal democratic minority making a deal with the conservatives and although they have got off to a promising start by restoring some lost civil liberties as promised by the Liberal Democrat Clegg it remains to be seen just how modern Britain will become in the life of this parliament.
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Mike

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"At the last election there was a coalition government with a liberal democratic minority making a deal with the conservatives and although they have got off to a promising start by restoring some lost civil liberties as promised by the Liberal Democrat Clegg "

Out of interest, which civil liberties have been restored?

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Re: Mike

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Scrapping of the ID scheme for one
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Re: Mike

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"restoring some lost civil liberties as promised by the Liberal Democrat Clegg "

This is sort of true with regard to id cards but it was also a manifesto commitment by the Tories so cannot be put down to the Lib Dems being in government. If the Tories had won an overall majority, I would have expected id cards to have been scrapped anyway.

I guess the point I am making is that Cleggie went on about restoring civil liberties endlessly before the election just as he went on about abolishing student fees endlessly. Cleggie also went on endlessly when joining the coalition about restoring civil liberties.

However, despite the Tory led government passing a huge amount of legislation since May, next to none of it has anything to do with the civil liberties Clegg trumpeted about. As far as I am aware, you are right. THe only thing that has changed is the scrapping of id cards which the Tories promised to do anyway.

So when you consider the umpteen manifesto commitments that the Lib Dems threw out of the window when they joined the coalition, it isnt much of an exchange is it?

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Re: Mike

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Clegg is doing what he can with the power he has at his disposal...
Clegg is a modern thinker and a European while the Conservatives are the perpetuators of the class system. The Libeal Democrats will win the next election at that maybe sooner than you think...
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And don't forget crime their manifestos were completely different, Lib Dems promised to decrease the number of Prisons and the Conservatives would increase the number. So now this mixed government is opting for community based sentences which is all good for someone who has say been in a fight down the pub but if he has bashed up and robbed your gran you want the guy locked up right? and that's what I thought the Tories would do, or that is what they said would happen, NOT NOW they are planning to close 6 prisons! That is a crime.
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Re: Revolution Needed

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The topic has moved away from getting rid of the class system!
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Re: Revolution Needed

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Because you mentioned 'Lib Dem' or 'Clegg' in your post. With Johnson around it was inevitable.

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""The liberal democrats will win the next election""......keep drinking whatever you are drinking,because you are not on this planet.
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"Clegg is a modern thinker""...apart from selling his party and 99% of its policies,what is modern about his thinking exactly?
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