I have stated on this forum previously that I object to being called a racist. The previous person who called me a racist apologised when challenged.
For those who may be at odds with my views I will state again that
I care not one iota what colour a persons skin is, or what their religion may be.
I detest all that the bastard Nick Griffin and his neo nazi BNP stand for.
The fact that I detest all fundamental muslim terrorists who want to kill me and you because we are not muslim and support our troops and allies in their war against them does not make me a racist !
The fact that I detest the Somali pirates and their actions does not make me a racist. I also detested the IRA when a soldier but that doesn't make me anti Irish.
Some of the best people I have met and served with are non whites and I still remain friends and in touch with more than a few of them.
Racists belong to the BNP and the Klu Klux Klan, so, to the stupid twatt who called me a racist scum recently if you have any semblance of right and wrong retract your statement, or keep your stupid writings to yourself.
Racism?
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max_tranmere
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I've always understood racism to mean "treating someone negatively, or exclusing them from something, purely on the grounds of their race, colour, creed or religion". You would have to do that, specifically that, to be a racist. Basically be a bigot.
If there is something very negative happening as a result of the tsumani of immigration we have had, and will continue to have, and because of the PC nonsense that we have in our society, and all a person is doing is flagging that up, saying it is wrong, and objecting to certain things because there is a clearly identifiable downside to what is happening, then that isn't racism it is reasonable comment and it is fair-enough.
Saying you don't want a black or Asian neighbour or lodger, or objecting to a black person drinking in your local pub, that is pure racism and very bad and anyone who does that should be vilified. Objecting to your neighbourhood becoming a middle-eastern ghetto, with no one speaking English in the street or on the bus, and squigly writing appearing on the facades of all the shops when it all used to be written in English, being angry of the total absense of poppy's worn in that area on Remembrance Day because none of the people care at all about the thing (whilst enjoying the legacy of all the sacrifices of course), being angry that Christmas lights don't go up anymore, and so on - this is all reasonable comment because there is a negative happening with regard to the traditions, customs, language and so on that has always gone on in that place.
Being healthily respectful of your own needs and wanting to retain a certain way of life, tradition, culture, language, and so on - whilst welcoming diversity so long as it doesn't mean the destruction of everything you knew - is not a bigoted position, therefore it is ok to do - and anyone calling someone a racist in that situation is mis-using it and devaluing the word even further. Being anti something without having a valid argument and just being nasty and bigoted - that is racism. I put a lot of all this mis-understanding of what the word means down to the media and their constant mischief-making with regard to all this.
If there is something very negative happening as a result of the tsumani of immigration we have had, and will continue to have, and because of the PC nonsense that we have in our society, and all a person is doing is flagging that up, saying it is wrong, and objecting to certain things because there is a clearly identifiable downside to what is happening, then that isn't racism it is reasonable comment and it is fair-enough.
Saying you don't want a black or Asian neighbour or lodger, or objecting to a black person drinking in your local pub, that is pure racism and very bad and anyone who does that should be vilified. Objecting to your neighbourhood becoming a middle-eastern ghetto, with no one speaking English in the street or on the bus, and squigly writing appearing on the facades of all the shops when it all used to be written in English, being angry of the total absense of poppy's worn in that area on Remembrance Day because none of the people care at all about the thing (whilst enjoying the legacy of all the sacrifices of course), being angry that Christmas lights don't go up anymore, and so on - this is all reasonable comment because there is a negative happening with regard to the traditions, customs, language and so on that has always gone on in that place.
Being healthily respectful of your own needs and wanting to retain a certain way of life, tradition, culture, language, and so on - whilst welcoming diversity so long as it doesn't mean the destruction of everything you knew - is not a bigoted position, therefore it is ok to do - and anyone calling someone a racist in that situation is mis-using it and devaluing the word even further. Being anti something without having a valid argument and just being nasty and bigoted - that is racism. I put a lot of all this mis-understanding of what the word means down to the media and their constant mischief-making with regard to all this.
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Sam Slater
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Re: Racism?
Rodders said: "Eventually these black robbing arseholes will stop."
You may or may not be a racist, and I do agree that to call someone a racist you must be damn sure and have a little proof first. However, you're not helping yourself one bit with comments like the above. You felt the need to include the colour of their skin in the process of berating them. 'Robbing arseholes' would have sufficed, surely?
I know that if someone of a different race calls me a cunt I'd take it they think I'm a cunt. If they call me a 'white cunt' I'd take it they have a problem with white people.
In future, if you want to attack, provoke, deride, insult or downright abuse someone, or a group, I'd do it without highlighting their race. That way you won't be giving people the wrong impression about you.
You may or may not be a racist, and I do agree that to call someone a racist you must be damn sure and have a little proof first. However, you're not helping yourself one bit with comments like the above. You felt the need to include the colour of their skin in the process of berating them. 'Robbing arseholes' would have sufficed, surely?
I know that if someone of a different race calls me a cunt I'd take it they think I'm a cunt. If they call me a 'white cunt' I'd take it they have a problem with white people.
In future, if you want to attack, provoke, deride, insult or downright abuse someone, or a group, I'd do it without highlighting their race. That way you won't be giving people the wrong impression about you.
[i]I used to spend a lot of time criticizing Islam on here in the noughties - but things are much better now.[/i]
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OK, you are correc. Robbing arseholes.
They just happen to have a very heavy suntan though.
They just happen to have a very heavy suntan though.
RoddersUK
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Surely if you're describing somebody as black when they actually are black, how can that be classed as racist?
I can see the point that you're trying to make, but if I call somebody a "bastard" does that mean that I think his mother and father were not married?
I can see the point that you're trying to make, but if I call somebody a "bastard" does that mean that I think his mother and father were not married?
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andy at handiwork
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Re: Racism?
It can be considered racist if the writer using the description doesn't refer to other n'er do wells as white when condemning whatever it is they have done.
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Sam Slater
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Re: Racism?
[quote]Surely if you're describing somebody as black when they actually are black, how can that be classed as racist?[/quote]
Oh come on. I don't have to point it out to you, surely? If you cut someone off in your car and some black guy behind you called you a cunt, you'd assume it's because you're being a bit of a cunt. If he rolls the window down and calls you a 'white cunt' you'd probably assume that while you might have pissed him off, he has issues with white people.
Give me one good reason why, when dishing out derogatory comments about someone that's angered you, their skin colour needs highlighting?
Oh come on. I don't have to point it out to you, surely? If you cut someone off in your car and some black guy behind you called you a cunt, you'd assume it's because you're being a bit of a cunt. If he rolls the window down and calls you a 'white cunt' you'd probably assume that while you might have pissed him off, he has issues with white people.
Give me one good reason why, when dishing out derogatory comments about someone that's angered you, their skin colour needs highlighting?
[i]I used to spend a lot of time criticizing Islam on here in the noughties - but things are much better now.[/i]
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Sam, not long ago there was somebody called a "Scottish git" on a thread but I don't remember you shouting about racism then. Possibly that one passed you by,or are you just being selective?
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Why wasn`t it racist when Jamie Foxx and his staff called Miley Cyrus a white bitch on his radio show in that case or do the rules only work one way?
Refering to race doen`t mean you`re a racist. Could mean you`re angry at a prick and thats the only thing that comes to mind.
A racist is a prick who brags about kicking the shit out of his sister because she got pregnant by a black guy and boasts about it as if it were natural.
Refering to race doen`t mean you`re a racist. Could mean you`re angry at a prick and thats the only thing that comes to mind.
A racist is a prick who brags about kicking the shit out of his sister because she got pregnant by a black guy and boasts about it as if it were natural.
Bukkake shots where you are with a few other guys...is fucking gay.
In fact, about pulling trains with a woman...you wanna have sex with other guys and mix your sperm with theirs...you're just using a woman as a conduit.
Fag..--Inside Clyde
In fact, about pulling trains with a woman...you wanna have sex with other guys and mix your sperm with theirs...you're just using a woman as a conduit.
Fag..--Inside Clyde
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If there are two people in a car, and get I cut up, lets say that one is white and one is black.The black one is driving and causes me to crash. Do you honestly think I would tell the police that it was the driver of the other car that caused the crash, or would I say that it was the black driver of the other car? It's a simple definition.