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civilised or inhumane?totally inhumane imo,whatever you think of lazy people is it right to leave them to a penniless existance for 3 years?its like going back to the 1920s

Do you really believe it will happen, it would cost the country more in the long run as crime would go through the roof and hospitals would be brimming with diseased people, more like benefits will be cut for the workshy.

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> civilised or inhumane?totally inhumane imo,whatever you think
> of lazy people is it right to leave them to a penniless
> existance for 3 years?its like going back to the 1920s

Why don't you just fuck off you pointless lefty cunt. For such a great fan of the working class,I can't help but notice how the majority of your post's are posted at times in the day when you should....erm be working!

And now your getting all worked up about the evil Tories taking money off wankers like you and yours. Fuck off and just hang about to gloat over another childs death again. Or at least change the fucking record....knob end! What you going to do with your three pound an hour?

Lets just make this clear for any one who is going to come on here and moan about Pensions,public service cuts,defence cuts,student fee's and wot not. There is NO fucking money!! I am thick as fuck,and even I can tell it's a huge shit sandwich and we are all going to have to take a bite. If in the process we get to shaft some dole scrounging fuckers....all the better.

BB

I have paid my dues since I was 16 and apart from a short period when I left the services I have been in work and paid my taxes, as much as I hate to.
The bastards who are reported in the media fucking well incence me and something must be done.
For genuine cases of hardship then the system that was devised for this purpose should care for them, but, the idle fucking piss takers need sorting out. If removing their cash handouts is the way then do it. Make the bastards work and earn a living to support their families as we hard working over taxed tax payers have to.
To the bleeding heart Liberals out there who disagree, then I only have one thing to say, and it is, FUCK OFF.

"its like going back to the 1920s"
Fuck me! is there nothing you don't moan about? were you around in the 1920's? there was NO benefit system in the 1920's so it's a stupid comparison. If this country is so inhumane, why do you think every economic immigrant still want's to come here? Try and imagine yourself going to Spain, or France, or Italy and demanding a job or benefits, they would laugh in your face. This Country has a proud history of helping the underdog, the asylum seeker, the persecuted, but there are only so many resources to go round, and if Turkey is allowed to join the EU, there will be 70 million people eligable to work anywhere they want in Europe.
Where do you think they will head for first eh? (clue: It wont be Greece)

If people are offered three jobs that are available for them to take, that are in keeping with their level of skills and experience, they will be at least as well off if not better off doing than they presently are on Benefit, then I don't see why they shouldnt take them. My experience though of job centres is they will say 'this has come in today, that has come in today' and it is often nothing like what you are good at or want to do.

If someone is on Benefit and they go to the job centre and are looking for a job as, say, a chef, because that is what they are skilled at and that is what they've done before, then it would be very wrong for the job centre to say: 'sweeping up leaves in the local parks, shelf-stacking in Asda, or confectionary salesperson at the local cinema - these three jobs have come in, you must take one or you're off Benefit' is very unfair and very wrong. I fear that will happen though.

Where someone got to career-wise, and the levels of earnings they reached, should be the starting point for where the job centre begins with that person. Not just any old crap. If this 'three strikes and your out' thing is run fairly, administered reasonably, then I can't see aproblem with it. I fear it won't be though.

Also there aren't enough jobs around for everyone to take so a lot of people will remain on Benefit for ages anyway. I am also angry, and very puzzled as to why, 92% of all jobs created under Labour were taken by foreigners. British people should have been considered for those first.

It will be interesting to see how this pans out. They aren't implementing it for three years though as far as I'm aware.

"I am also angry, and very puzzled as to why, 92% of all jobs created under Labour were taken by foreigners. British people should have been considered for those first".

"British jobs for British workers" (Gordon Brown 2009.) I am afraid New Labour opened the flood gates for all and sundry, this was of course social engineering by them to secure an ongoing core vote, sadly they have fucked this country to a stump. And as I said before, there are 70million Turkish people that will soon be elelegible to ply their trade anywhere they want within Europe, they will of course make the Uk the number one destination, why? because we have a better benefit system than any other EU country, free healthcare, cheap housing, guaranteed benefits....what's not to like?

As i understand it and im not sure that i do but once benefits are rolled in to one benefit then this will apply to single mothers with young children, so are you suggesting that if a single mother refuses a job her children are left to starve, its going to be interesting to see how they roll this one out because as yet there is little detail.

Illegal, probably.

Removing someone's benefits totally would mean they would lose, among other things, their home which they would not lose without this action and would most likely be a breach of human rights law.