Tory leader David Cameron wants to bring back the right to stop and search and to give the Police the power back,without any paperwork needed.
Cameron's plans also include a 'night time curfew' for minors,providing they have a real case for being out after the curfew,ie:Football match,music concert.
Now i'd rather wipe my arse with broken glass than vote Tory but i actually agree with Cameron and do believe it would work and would crack down on teenage crime and would give the streets back to the people.
I can see doubters already saying that the majority of youngsters that would be stopped and searched are blacks,which would alienate their communities.
The role of the Police is supposed to be to 'uphold the law'.If they're stashed away in the copshop doing paperwork,they are not doing their job.
They need their power back,and this will not happen under namby pamby Nu Labour.
If Cameron shows more backbone like this,he certainly can start making house moving plans for May next year.
The right to stop and search
The right to stop and search
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Sam Slater
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Re: The right to stop and search
Sorry, I don't agree. With the 'stop & search' thing, you have a point if there are limits. Does 'stop & search' mean searching for drugs & weapons, or reading documents in a folder, diary or laptop?
As for curfews.....that's a big no-no for me. Sorry, this isn't South Africa in the 70's. What would the age limit be? 16?; 18?; 21? Where's the evidence that you're more likely to by mugged by a 15 year old rather than a 18 year old?
I've said it a few times already. The reason our streets are less safe is due to your average man taking the car everywhere. If more people walked then more coppers would walk too. That means more 'normal' people on the streets rather than the odd shady character. When a dominating force moves away from something it leaves a vacuum which must be filled by another dominating force.
To reclaim the streets, people need to get out of their cars and use them. Trouble is, nobody wants to.
As for curfews.....that's a big no-no for me. Sorry, this isn't South Africa in the 70's. What would the age limit be? 16?; 18?; 21? Where's the evidence that you're more likely to by mugged by a 15 year old rather than a 18 year old?
I've said it a few times already. The reason our streets are less safe is due to your average man taking the car everywhere. If more people walked then more coppers would walk too. That means more 'normal' people on the streets rather than the odd shady character. When a dominating force moves away from something it leaves a vacuum which must be filled by another dominating force.
To reclaim the streets, people need to get out of their cars and use them. Trouble is, nobody wants to.
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The bottom line is though if they have nothing to hide,then there's no problem.
mouthpieces like Trevor Phillips will be sceptical about this but so be it.
This is not about sparking racial tension,this is about reclaiming the streets and showing these little runts who's boss.
A short.sharp,shock.
mouthpieces like Trevor Phillips will be sceptical about this but so be it.
This is not about sparking racial tension,this is about reclaiming the streets and showing these little runts who's boss.
A short.sharp,shock.
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Re: The right to stop and search
Sam Slater wrote:
Where's the evidence that you're more likely to by
> mugged by a 15 year old rather than a 18 year old?
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If you remember a few years ago, the Met police boss Paul Condon revealed his statics showed that most muggings in London were committed by black males, late teens/early 20's. Of course, he was immediately denounced as a racist by the race industry, almost chased out of office.
Its possible you no longer see evidence/statistics that go against what the PC gang see as acceptable race/ethnic/social divides, it just causes too much bother.
Where's the evidence that you're more likely to by
> mugged by a 15 year old rather than a 18 year old?
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If you remember a few years ago, the Met police boss Paul Condon revealed his statics showed that most muggings in London were committed by black males, late teens/early 20's. Of course, he was immediately denounced as a racist by the race industry, almost chased out of office.
Its possible you no longer see evidence/statistics that go against what the PC gang see as acceptable race/ethnic/social divides, it just causes too much bother.
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Re: The right to stop and search
The majority of kids being shot or knifed in Britain are black,so they are the victims.
More coppers on the streets and more power given to them would'nt completely eradicate crime,but would certainly make the offenders think twice,and if they are caught with a weapon then lock them up,regardless of colour or ethnic background.End of.
More coppers on the streets and more power given to them would'nt completely eradicate crime,but would certainly make the offenders think twice,and if they are caught with a weapon then lock them up,regardless of colour or ethnic background.End of.
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Re: The right to stop and search
"If you remember a few years ago, the Met police boss Paul Condon revealed his statics showed that most muggings in London were committed by black males, late teens/early 20's"
Hmm, I wonder if that's why whenever a mindless street stabbing, shooting, type case comes to a conclusion and the perpetrator?s mug shot is flash up on the news it more often than not turns to be an Afro-Caribbean person- even though they still only represent a small part of the population. It?s got to the stage where whenever you hear details of some heinous case of street murder you just know who's going to have done it. Maybe that's why the police tend to stop and search the types of people who are most likely to be up to no good - or 'be carrying'? It seems to me that it would be a waste of time and resources (thus endangering the wider public) stopping and searching ordinary folks at random just to appease some idiotic middleclass person?s 'social conscience'. Those snotty Nu-Labour fuckers don't tend to live in rough or 'deprived' areas where you risk being done to death on the street - which is why they can afford the luxury of a social conscience. It won't be them or their loved ones that take a blade. So when they start up about 'discrimination', 'racism' and 'human rights' I would advise that you tell 'em to fuck off, and indeed, 'Shut it!'
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Hmm, I wonder if that's why whenever a mindless street stabbing, shooting, type case comes to a conclusion and the perpetrator?s mug shot is flash up on the news it more often than not turns to be an Afro-Caribbean person- even though they still only represent a small part of the population. It?s got to the stage where whenever you hear details of some heinous case of street murder you just know who's going to have done it. Maybe that's why the police tend to stop and search the types of people who are most likely to be up to no good - or 'be carrying'? It seems to me that it would be a waste of time and resources (thus endangering the wider public) stopping and searching ordinary folks at random just to appease some idiotic middleclass person?s 'social conscience'. Those snotty Nu-Labour fuckers don't tend to live in rough or 'deprived' areas where you risk being done to death on the street - which is why they can afford the luxury of a social conscience. It won't be them or their loved ones that take a blade. So when they start up about 'discrimination', 'racism' and 'human rights' I would advise that you tell 'em to fuck off, and indeed, 'Shut it!'
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Re: The right to stop and search
[quote]It seems to me that it would be a waste of time and resources (thus endangering the wider public) stopping and searching ordinary folks at random just to appease some idiotic middleclass person’s 'social conscience'.[/quote]
I was agreeing with you in some aspects, but what do you mean by 'normal' people, and how would a policemen determine 'normal'?
If statistics show more blacks and asians between 15 and 25 are carrying weapons than white 50 year olds, then I agree that police resources should follow those statistics. (we're already discriminatory with age as you don't see coppers searching pensioners on allotments for crack and handguns). However, I don't know how you would determine who's 'normal' by either age, sex or ethnicity.
I was agreeing with you in some aspects, but what do you mean by 'normal' people, and how would a policemen determine 'normal'?
If statistics show more blacks and asians between 15 and 25 are carrying weapons than white 50 year olds, then I agree that police resources should follow those statistics. (we're already discriminatory with age as you don't see coppers searching pensioners on allotments for crack and handguns). However, I don't know how you would determine who's 'normal' by either age, sex or ethnicity.
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Ah, I feared it might be problematic referring to 'normal' folks - actually I said "ordinary" - my meaning being, Joe Average.
Joe (or Josephine) is no set colour, but chances are he's white, middle aged, middle-incomed, doesn?t cause any bother, and much less carry a knife. In fact he/she is so boringly ordinary and normal that you'd never notice him/her unless he/she bumped into you on the street. There are very many people like this, with similar attributes and tendencies, clumped together in the middle of what mathematicians call the 'the bell curve'. This mass of people in the middle of the bell curve, in beteween the high flyers and scumbag retards are what we think of as ?normal?, or ordinary. Indeed they, in a way, define the tenuous state of human normality.
A bell curve earlier today -
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Joe (or Josephine) is no set colour, but chances are he's white, middle aged, middle-incomed, doesn?t cause any bother, and much less carry a knife. In fact he/she is so boringly ordinary and normal that you'd never notice him/her unless he/she bumped into you on the street. There are very many people like this, with similar attributes and tendencies, clumped together in the middle of what mathematicians call the 'the bell curve'. This mass of people in the middle of the bell curve, in beteween the high flyers and scumbag retards are what we think of as ?normal?, or ordinary. Indeed they, in a way, define the tenuous state of human normality.
A bell curve earlier today -
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