Good News!

[Officer Dibble]

Yes, at last some cheery news. It seems that those preposterous, politically motivated, trumped up charges, made against our lads in Iraq have been dropped. But only after huge expense to the taxpayer and simmering resentment and alienation within the ranks of the British Army.

It seems these charges stem from an incident where the soldiers captured some Iraqi suspects at a hotel along with a haul of guns and explosives. So, they took 'em back to base and gave 'em a slap or three, to encourage them to spill the beans. However, when the poncy Islington mob heard about it they nearly choked on their Parmesan and rocket! Yes, they were mortified. And, over a glass of the finest Chianti, they as one cried, "This is a clear case of an abusive civilian/combatant relationship! These soldiers are obviously prejudiced! We must charge them under the International Criminal Court Act! This will send a message to the International community and our NuLabour backbenchers that we are excising a duty of care over those who wish to kill our serviceman! Never mind our duty to those we have sent to fight and die for our Foreign Policy whims. They are nobodies after all, simple prole squadies, they are expendable, we'll hang them out to dry for political advantage!"

What a set of unspeakable poncy twats they (the NuLabour Islington mob) are. Safe at home, in the leafy suburbs, at their middle-class dinner parties, discussing into the relative merits of the latest Pinter play - while bullets and bombs whistle round the heads of the lads they have sent to Iraq. The lads who are laying their fucking lives on the line for 'em! So what if they did give some Iraqi insurgents a kicking? I, and the majority of the British people, don't give a fuck - not the slightest.

Episodes like this have done huge damage to the moral of the British Army - their ranks have been decimated by the Labour government. They have been put in harms way without the proper kit, because Gordon Brown and his poncy middle-class pals have spent the money on fucking asylum seekers, single chav mothers and African debt relief. These twats want to use the British army as an instrument of foreign policy, but at the same time are embarrassed by it and everything else militaristic. Hence they starve it of cash and have little compunction about hanging it's members out to dry when it is politically expedient. No wonder recruitment is at an all time low and instances of desertion are on the increase.

The British army is the institution that had most to do with making Gt. Britain great. And yet these poncy NuLabourites are running it down, destroying it, insulting it's men and generally behaving towards it as though it were some embarrassing, dotty, deformed relation to be locked in the back room and mentioned only when absolutely necessary. It's a fucking disgrace.







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[Alex L]

Yes, all of the above and sadly because of the above squandering of money as outlined by OD we will be seeing less of these chaps as well!

[Officer Dibble]

That is so easy to say for nice middleclass people leading nice middleclass lives. People who's only experience of physical confrontation might be getting shirty with the lady in the Discovery who's just piped then to that prime parking space at Sainsbrys. Yes, it's easy to say for people who have no conception of how they might feel and react if someone else were actively trying to kill them and their comrades. I guess it's easy to sneer at the young men who, down the ages, have put their lives on the line to underwrite the freedom a poncy, pretentious, and thoroughly ungrateful bourgeoisie. Don't you think that, whether their cause was justified or not, you might feel a little upset if some scruffy irrational wild-eyed fuckers had blown one of your mates to kingdom come, reducing him to a pile of steaming of offal and a red pool in the sand? Don't you think you might experience a pressing urge to give the perpetrators, or anyone who supported them in their action, a slap? Maybe even a bit more?

Yes, it's easy for armchair commentators, safe at home, without AK47 rounds whistling round their heads to critiscise the action of young men fighting a war and in fear of their lives. The soldiers in this instance may well have dispensed kickings to the suspects they captured - and yes, it is regrettable that one of them subsequently died. I do not celebrate his death. But, then again, I find that I'm not all that upset about it - so I won't pretend to be. What I am far more interested in are the lives and well being of OUR men. The decent young men who are laying their lives on the line while being sneered at, treated with contempt, and used as expendable pawns by arrogant middleclass fuckers whose empty, and utterly pretentious, words of compassion and concern for any and every lowlife scumbag fair makes me want to rip my hair out and trash my computer! AAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!!

The British Army is (was) one of the greatest in the world. It's ranks are made up of normal, mortal, flesh and blood men, and unlike many other armies, it tends not to do atrocities - instead it normally relies on a well polished, none-lethal, size ten to get it's message across. I say that's a reason to celebrate and support the British Army - instead of slagging it down, sneering at it, and talking up those ranged against it - ostensibly our enemies.

But the point of this post was to get folks discussing whether the middleclass elite (politicians, civil servants, etc) are woefully misusing the Army, treating it with contempt and sacrificing it's members without the slightest compunction when it seems politically expedient? Are NuLabour budget cuts decimating one of the worlds oldest, proudest, and most respected fighting forces? Is this a national scandal? In this uncertain world might we be sorry in future? These are the questions I pose in this thread. Would you care to address them?

Here?s a Telegraph article suggesting it has evidence of what virtually everyone believes ? that is trial was nothing more than an improvident, malicious, show trail. A political prosecution.







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[middle_aged_dutchman]

And in which war did YOU fight, Dibble?

M_A_D: Proud to be middle-class!

[Officer Dibble]

Just to clarify. I don't generally condone systematic torture or murder (though there may be instances that arise where it is unavoidable for the greater good). What I am saying is that if some of our soldiers gave some of their opponents (people who are tying to kill them) some rough treatment, I'm not going to loose any sleep over it. I think you'll find that is the general consensus amongst ordinary folks on the streets.

OK, Alice, I think we?ve said all that there is to be said. We'll just have to agree to differ on this issue.

Cheers


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