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usa vs. europe
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:01 am
by woodgnome
given the perennial debate on this forum about the contrasting manner in which our two continents conduct their geo-political affairs, i would recommend
'power and paradise' by robert kagan, as a timely analysis of why people with much in common culturally, are increasingly at loggerheads over a wide range of issues.
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the above link is to amazon.com for the greater number of reviews posted by readers but it's readily available in paperback over here)
Re: usa vs. europe
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:43 am
by Bronson Lee
Can you point me in the direction of the Ladybird version ?
Re: usa vs. europe
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:51 am
by Lizard
Why?..............there,s still no pictures!
Re: usa vs. europe
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:55 am
by Bronson Lee
Smaller and easy to nick from Waterstones .
Re: usa vs. europe
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:04 pm
by Lizard
How remiss of me...........
Re: usa vs. europe
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:07 pm
by Lizard
Bimmer wrote-: "Interesting book...I'll pick it up! I am always wanting to know what makes you guys tick.
Well! there,s diplomacy, and real ale for a start.........
Re: usa vs. europe
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:15 pm
by thomasdecabries
Are you sure you're on the top ?
On the top of what ?
Do you remember vietnam ?
All the intelligent people have forcast what it happens now in iraq but the us government has made the choice to prefer the oil bush friends and family interests : you are so stupid to compare us and europe so, before to talk, go to school...
Re: usa vs. europe
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:17 pm
by Cerberus
So what makes us guys tick?...........dunno but it probably dates back to around the Viking incursions lol.
So is this weighty tome going to give us the answers from a "neutral" perspective? After reading the bio I'm quite convinced...........lol
Robert Kagan
Aka: The Thoughtful Superhawk
Authorized bio: Washington Post columnist, senior associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, author of Paradise and Power: America vs. Europe in the New World Order, co-director of the Project for the New American Century.
Unauthorized bio: The guy who explains why the Europeans are wimps.
His take on war: European and American views of geopolitics are irreconcilable. The American view?that only force can secure democracy and international order?is correct, so we should topple Saddam now.
Like a broken record: "Americans are from Mars; Europeans are from Venus."
Connections: Writes for Kristol's Weekly Standard and directs Kristol's think tank. Kagan and Kristol co-wrote the 1996 Foreign Affairs piece "Toward a Neo-Reaganite Foreign Policy," a neocon manifesto advocating that the United States pursue "benevolent global hegemony." Works under Jessica Mathews at Carnegie.
He is not: Frederick Kagan (his brother, a military historian with identical views), Robert Kaplan (Atlantic Monthly, geopolitical Jeremiah), Lawrence Kaplan (New Republic, identical views), or Fred Kaplan (Slate, "Bush is blowing it").
Re: usa vs. europe
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:41 pm
by Bronson Lee
Thou never wast remiss, I bear thee witness.