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Great site, forum and database!

However, don't you think it's about time we 'punters' deserved better from UK producers?

They seem to use the forum to advertise their products and by so doing think they are doing us a favour!!!

It's about time we told them the poorly shot amateur productions are just not good enough. After all, now the censorship laws have been relaxed we should be getting better quality videos but aren't. I guess that's because they want to maximise their profits with cheap sets, ugly fat studs and cheap women .

While I'm having a 'rant' I might as well mention the girls. Some of the UK productions seem to feature a right old rough collection who are obviously just doing it for the money- bored faces, tattoos all over the place and obviously acting. Lets see more of the likes of Wendy Taylor or Dr. Anna (has she ever done hardcore?)or others like them who enjoy sex, like the camera and look superb!!

What do you think?

Tallishman

I think you may be getting Dallas mixed up with real life sex mate, your confused, the guys in this country want real women and me included. Big, small, skiny or fat they all deserve the chance to appear in a mucky movie or two and if you think producers, myself for one will start shooting American style studio sets you are wrong. I will stick to housewifes from crew filmed in their own homes unless I am commisioned otherwise.
Even the ugly ones deserve a chance complete with tatoos.
In the past I have produced big budget stuff Crown cronicles, lifestyles of the rich etc, etc, etc and All the new Xmania range for Hans Moser but nothing gives me more pleasure than a British bird getting her rocks of on film.
Phil McC

Couldn't have said it better phil.

There is enough american stuff to keep you occupied for the rest of your life. Its more of the true british stuff you want (and european).

I love the gonzo style and most people who do this (excl max hardcore) are in the UK. And nobody does it better (ahem).

So if anything i say come on all you budding producers in the UK get a camera and start selling your efforts. We want to see loads more and maybe if it turns it a big enough industry the goverment may even get to like the revenue it could make off it .

Cheers.

Frazman.Phil McC wrote:
>
> I think you may be getting Dallas mixed up with real life sex
> mate, your confused, the guys in this country want real women
> and me included. Big, small, skiny or fat they all deserve
> the chance to appear in a mucky movie or two and if you think
> producers, myself for one will start shooting American style
> studio sets you are wrong. I will stick to housewifes from
> crew filmed in their own homes unless I am commisioned
> otherwise.
> Even the ugly ones deserve a chance complete with tatoos.
> In the past I have produced big budget stuff Crown cronicles,
> lifestyles of the rich etc, etc, etc and All the new Xmania
> range for Hans Moser but nothing gives me more pleasure than
> a British bird getting her rocks of on film.
> Phil McC

Agree with the last two posts. I've had enough of Yank falseness and want natural UK lovelies. You can't beat a bit of HONEST porn and at least a touch of reality. Have you seen the state of some of those Yanks lately, especially Houston?

Perhaps I've touched a raw nerve.

I wasn't arguing for plastic style American porn and I certainly wasn't getting at Phil McCavity. Sorry if you formed that impression Phil.

Most of the UK stuff is good but it could be much better with just a little more effort. Nice locations for instance. Less misogynism. Less of the men who look and behave like they can only get sex in a porn video. Less of them treating the girls like pieces of meat!! In other words more eroticism.

On the hand......each to their own I suppose.....and maybe I'm in a minority.

Tallishman wrote:

> don't you think it's about time we 'punters'
> deserved better from UK producers?

> It's about time we told them the poorly shot amateur
> productions are just not good enough.

You know, I think the many colours and shades of "poorly shot" and "amateur" are part of what I like about Brit films, counterposed with the slick, professional, "mainstream" American product, say.

At root, I think this is because the "lack of polish" actually allows more room for real individuality to emerge. Definitely there could be better camerawork amongst some UK producers (present company excepted, of course!) - though some is, I think, intoxicatingly good by anyone's standards - but in a way this is part and parcel of the samizdat nature of the British market.

My hope is that someone would acquire rights to and release the best of the stuff that has been circulated outside the legal market over the years, and which has never had significant 'legal' releases outside the UK, as intact as it can be made under the new R18 guidelines. This is probably unlikely, though,

I think the market will tend in the direction you seem to prefer, as big money (probably from the States) seizes the opportunity and excercises its own commercial advantages.

> After all, now the censorship laws have been relaxed we should
> be getting better quality videos but aren't.

I don't think that follows at all. Why should relaxed censorship equate to better quality? I only see it leading to blandness and commerciality.

Tallishman wrote:
>
> Perhaps I've touched a raw nerve.

Worth touching, those, sometimes

> I wasn't arguing for plastic style American porn

Yeah, I was reading you that way - until you mentioned Anna Smith and Wendy

> [...] it could be much better with [less] of the men who
> look and behave like they can only get sex in a porn video.

Come on, you're not saying that Dr Disgusting is hard up for girls are you? That guy could pull in *any* club

Joey,

Thanks for your comments and, you know, I agree with much of what you've said.

You've put across your points very well and obviously better than I did in my original post.(see the above confusion)

I think I'm asking for something which may prove, on current evidence, to be beyond we Brits. Not plastic US type porn, nor artificial TVX type girls nor some ugly bloke with a camera filming some ol'slapper shagging on a plastic sofa in a badly decorated sitting room. Just a good production with attractive but real people, filmed and edited competently with a beginnning, middle and end. Just quality really.

Although Houston was born in Norway (although I conceed that she was brought up in LA) and if memory serves did a gang bang in Poland last year.

Try the Cameo Collection series discussed in another thread (apologies if you also contributed to that).