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Why is it that directors / film producers feel that Joe Public want to see girls spitting on dicks, throat gagging, eyes popping out, swearing etc etc.

Surely its better to see gorgeous girls being fucked in a more sensual, softer way.

Furthermore, why the big pornstar shoes? why not high heels that are more subtle, but remaining sexy?

Just a thought!

Apparently, extreme sells---or the producers think it does. Big turn-off to me, and probably others, but gets the misogynists who like to see women being thoroughly degraded excited.

A producer/director has never told me to spit on anyone or wear porn shoes...Its all about the girls choice. I do it because i choose to

Fair enough, Tequila, and that's your choice. And not watching that kind of material is mine.

Sorry, Caractacus, you're wrong to call people who like that kind of stuff, misogynists. True, it's close to the boundaries, and true it's not to everyone's taste. But it has nothing to do with hating women, which is what misogynism implies. It's all about fantasy.

An ex-girlfriend of mine was incredibly into the kind of output that Meathole and Sex and Submission produces, but in real life she was one of the most self-assured, assertive women you could ever meet. She enjoyed the fantasy of submission, but once the vid was over and she had gotten herself off, it was back to being her real self. You want to call her a misogynist?

For the vast majority of porn fans, fantasy is separate from reality. Yes, there is a minority who project their particular fetish to real life, or vice versa, but it's the exception rather than the rule. I know people who are fastidiously clean and hygeinic in real life, who watch scat and golden shower porn endlessly.

We have to be careful about generalised characterisations based on porn preferences. Each of us has the right to avoid what we don't like. Be it spanking, BDSM, BBW's or teen porn.

For me, once you dump snuff, kiddie porn and bestiality into the bin where they belong, the rest is (admittedl weird, sometimes) personal preferences.

And that's where we should leave it.

Hope you get my drift.....

At the end of the day you've got the choice not to watch what you don't like - although the converse is not strictly true, but that's a minor technicality.

Yeah, and you're probably right, Darkow. Too close to the edge for me. Anything involving pain, shame or extreme degradation is not my cup of char, and sometimes my opposition to it results in sweeping generalisations (never a good thing).

Meat/poison, strokes/folks. Apologies all.

Why does anyone make any type or Porn,because it sells

If you want sensual & softer,may I suggest you head backwards,1994/95 and back

Plenty out there

cheers
B....OZ

Oh, come on Carac. Show a bit more backbone, don't cop out now. And you were doing so well...


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