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Is this porn?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:29 pm
by Jon NS
hi all

here are a couple of free video clips for you to view.

They are taken from a solo webcast sally did last friday 9th July where she was mildly dominant/teasing with the guys who were watching and interacting with her. The set-up is just a static video camera in the corner of the bedroom under sally's control. The clips below have been edited but only very basically.

090704 Mini Movie 3 (teasing, riding a 'stick-on' dildo to orgasm, oral)
150k (10MB)
340k (23MB)

090704 Mini Movie 5 (teasing, fuck with dildo, orgasm and squirt)
150k (10MB)
340k (22.5MB)

The reason I ask is this porn?, is because we don't produce material in the traditional way. This means that we don't compete with the production values of the major producers, nor do we use models/professionals or pay anyone for a 'performance'. But we hope that we create something that's horny and that you'll enjoy.

The videos will be available for 7 days

cheers
Jon
http://www.naturalsex.org/sally
PS Could the mods please change the site image in the links catagory? Thanks very much. Here's a new one [img]http://www.naturalsex.org/sally/promo/sally_home.jpg[/img]


Re: Is this porn?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:37 pm
by joe king
'It was late on a Friday night. I was laced into my purple basque and thong, fishnet stockings, thigh high boots and lacey black gloves. I switched the camera on but spent a few minutes making the guys wait....'


'Simon Garfield in the
Observer Life Magazine
Her [Sally] site does not have the alienting
brutality of much internet pornography and
there is no hint of victim culture. Niether is
it fetishistic; indeed it?s warmth and suburban
normality is part of the allure. '

'Neither is it fetishistic' - he must have been looking on the wrong day


Re: Is this porn?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:20 pm
by Pianaman
Downloading now - looks very interesting.

"Is this porn"??

What is porn anyway?

Re: Is this porn?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:51 pm
by Number1
What is porn? I always thought it was girls showing you inside their fannies, shoving dildos up themselves and being shagged. So yes it's porn.

I've had a look and it seems like a quality amateur porn production. I'm not sure what the "we don't compete with the production values of the major producers" means. I assume that's supposed to mean it's better? I can't see anything that really hits me as being different. Softer, more personal perhapse?

It looks fine, and has obviously had prime mainstream publication promotion which will no doubt ensure it's success. But how good is it? Suppose someone will have to part with their money to tell us.

Criticism? Surprisingly for me, not a lot. Just two things that put me (personally) off. 1- I hate lace gloves. They feel horrible, like someone recovering from 3rd degree burns, they freak me out. And 2 - I used to be a sales mananger so the moment I see "testimonials" recommending ANYTHING, I instantly switch off.

Other than that I'm sure it'll do well. It will get a loyal following, I suspect, as personalised sites do, and will no doubt be well worth the effort for the people involved, and I wish them all the best.


Re: Is this porn?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:56 pm
by todge

"Is this...........a good reason to introduce the Promotions Forum ?"

Re: Is this porn?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:00 pm
by marcusallen
todge & others:

Why not ley them have a moment of fame/glory? It does not hurt anyone and at the end of the day you guys will determine their future by sales or not. Actually, I think that some guys would prefer this kind of sexual activity.

Re: Is this porn?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:30 pm
by Number1
Hope you didn't miss-read me Marcus, I said it was quality and it would do well.

The amateur stuff I've been involved in in the past has outsold everything else. (except some bits of the fetish material). This will be a winner for the people involved, and if they're doing it partly as recreation then all the better.

I actually believe that if more girls followed that route than doing the same as every other model by touting themselves round all the same sites/mags/producers we'd have a far more varied and genuine choice of adult material, and the girls would have longer and more rewarding careers.

But then, company owners have always impressed me more than factory workers, if you see what I mean.


Re: Is this porn?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:08 pm
by Pianaman
I've enjoyed both videos. If by saying you have different production values you mean you are striving for a more natural and human eroticism - as opposed to the dehumanisation prevelent in some sections of the porn industry then I'd support that. If by that you feel what you are making is not porn or more than porn then I still ask what is porn?

If "porn" is defined in terms of content alone then what you are making is porn - good, strong (I wouldn't call it soft), sexy exhibitionism. But if you feel the difference between what you are making and "porn" is not so much the content as the values and attitudes being articulated then maybe you could say there are many tendencies within what we call porn - some of which are striving for a more genuine eroticism as opposed to crass commercialism and exploitation.

Re: Is this porn?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:11 pm
by marcusallen
No 1
What I meant was that I think it WILL sell.
There is a hell of a market out there for............................................
you know what I mean.
Very Good luck to you.

o/t Re: Is this porn?

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:23 am
by woodgnome
now done. thanx for the offer but we prefer to cook up our own screen caps with a little grey border around 'em, just to keep things looking tidy.