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hiv news

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:30 pm
by sandie



blast me for scare mongering if u want but id hate to see this happen over here and i think the uk needs a huge kick up the ass with regard to sexual health.

as tricia deveraux states " Hopefully that kind of scare won't happen in the UK business, but the switch needs to get made as a precaution and not as a hindsight."


Re: hiv news

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 3:46 pm
by webmong
Would pro girls work with amateurs if the guys wore condoms? Would they give handjobs if the girls wore gloves?
What's the general rule?

Re: hiv news

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 4:19 pm
by Marino
Wish all the guys in the U.S. hit by this the best of luck.
Have any of the Brit girls been in any danger out there?

The striking thing in this story...

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:12 pm
by JackHorny
Is the part that AIM plays...

Of course - thoughts are with the performers affected by this news, but the one thing that really strikes me is the difference in the healthcare infrastructure between here and the US.

There is a major gap in the market here and I would have thought an outfit like AIM would have ceased on this - especially in light of recent debate within the industry.

There isn't a single dissenting voice on the notion that 30day tests are an improvement on 90day tests - so why isn't some organisation somewhere latching onto this?

Obviously, the UK industry is significantly smaller than the US industry - but surely this should make it considerably easier for an outfit like AIM to co-ordinate things in the first instance.

It would seem that the big barrier is COST - but what price a life? Or what price a lifetime supported by drugs fighting to stave off death?

Some might say it is cynical to use this news to further Jason's push towards 30day certs, but that would be wrong and misguided - if this doesn't bring the whole issue out into the open - what will?

But the question still remains - who is going to put the infrastructure in place and how quickly and easily can it be done?

Re: The striking thing in this story...

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:26 pm
by DanG
Ooops....I posted another topic on this story without realising this one was on the same news/performer!

Still, I'd like to know what was decided vis a vis 30 day tests at Jason's big meeting.....anyone know anything?

I also agree it is high time some enterprising individual/s started to offer an AIM-type service to the UK. It might benefit and help grow the industry as a whole....

Re: hiv news

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:29 pm
by marcusallen
speaking of which:

What happened to the GREAT DEBATE that occupied so many column inches in posts a few weeks back?

Who attended?
What were the conclusions/results?
What new guidlines are in place?

The silence has been a bit deafening after such outrage and protestations of support from everyone from certain industry performers/producers/agents to your local dustman(no offence intended to refuse collectors)

Meeting update

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:31 pm
by Mike@MSS
Just a brief update on what has happened since the great debate as MA refers to it. There were around 20 attendees at the first meeting from a cross section of the industry( unfortunately MA didnt attend to voice his opinions!).

The outcome is that the British Adult Industry Health Awareness(BAIHA) group has been formed to look at and set in place suggested guidelines for the industry relating to health and health risks within the industry this will include and in agreement with some of the main model agents/producers within the UK ,30 day HIV /STD testing WEF from the 1st May.

Let me make it clear these are guidelines ONLY but from talking with a number of the main models/studs in the UK they are very keen on 30 day testing and have said they will ony work with others that work to these guidelines, as such the guidelines should become self regulatory for a majority of people working within the adult industry.

There will be a lot more announced over the next few weeks so please be patient whilst everything is put in place and no doubt watch out for the shit to fly from certain people that dont quite understand that the health of those people that work for us in the UK is of upmost importance and we should be doing everything possible in the UK to help reduce the risks.

Hope this helps to put you in the picture

Mike

Re: Meeting update

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:46 pm
by DanG
Good news....I fully favour the move to 30 day tests, so it's nice to hear that the meeting has set the ball rolling.

Re: hiv news

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:09 pm
by marcusallen
Mike:
Spoken like a professional politico.

Q:What are your qualifications for your "presidency"?
How lomg you been in the biz?
What pro/medical info you have?
What pPROVEN claims you have re communicable "diseases"

You have facts & figures re UK porn industry?
I do.

Not that I need explain myaelf, but suffice to say that I have (to put it crudely) have had sex with umpteen ladies both pro and amateur over a long period of time and as is well known,I have a damaged back-which is a result of my former life/activities BUT, I have |NEVER contraxted any kingddisease.

Witness, Iam still alive,well and kicking.

To be charitble, perhaps you mean well or alternatively. you are simply jumpimg on a nadwagon.


Either way. like I said above ----Prove youself without aid/suxtwbance

There is a very old saying, which I have adhered to all my long life

"Don't tell me, show me"

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Re: Meeting update

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:28 pm
by golostruda
What fucking difference would a move to 30 day tests make? None. Either use condoms in every scene or accept the risk of contracting HIV as part of the job. Dozens of stunt people die every year doing their job - they perform action moves in films to entertain an audience who want to see such moves but don't want to risk doing them themselves. That is what stuntfolk are paid for. Ditto porn performers. Hundreds died building the Clifton Suspension Bridge, at least twenty died building the Queen Mary 2. Every job has its risks. That is why you get paid to do a job. Of course it is sad when someone suffers an illness through work, in whatever circumstances, but unless you want to join the world of unemployable Health & Safety Law quoting hypchondriacs, you need to buy some perspective. Millions of people die every year because of their jobs, be they porn stars, construction workers, stuntpeople or middle-managers. Having unprotected sex with dozens of people a year is a dangerous thing to do. Most of the people that buy the films wouldn't do it themself, that is why they spend money on the films, effectively living vicariously via those performers. We pay you to take that risk. You suddenly noticed it is risky? Yes it is, so is being a police officer, teacher, dentist or video store clerk. One shouldn't have to suffer injury, illness or worse in their job, but people do. That is why we have an army, a police force, fire brigade, etc. We pay other people to take those risks in exchange for a wage. Porn performers are no different. Sorry, but there are two choices: (a) condoms only, or (b) risk of HIV/STD infection. You can pick any testing certificate duration you like (from two hours to two years) but it still comes back to that (a) or (b) choice.