30 day tests

[David Lever]

I don't see the point of the 30 day hiv test idea, since it takes supposedly 90 days for the body to produce antibodies and therefore exposure to HIV to be detected. Therefore (correct me if I am wrong), if you were to be tested on say 1st March and got infected on the 10th March, you would happily receive at least 2 further monthly all clear tests, and maybe be detected on the 4th test.So therefore all the 30 day test gives you is a false sense of security. This is why we have a 90 day test at the moment, because this is the incubation time of the virus.
Far more sensible would be a monthly screen for all the other STD's, which can be detected more quickly.
Those who are so concerned about HIV should not be working in this business, because the only 100% safe answer, as is the case for all infectious diseases is TOTAL isolation! Or perhaps this is the answer: A group of concerned studs and studdesses rent a house together, they all go together at the same time to be tested for all std's, they then return to their house and contantly watch each other to ensure no shagging of any kind takes place (or sexual contact) they then all return to a clinic together 3 months later and get re-tested, having all received the all clear, they then continue monitoring each other for 24 hours a days and only work exclusively with each other, from then on.Of course there would be no further excursions to clubs or any illicit sexual contact from then on!
Anyone fancy a conference to discuss this idea.............I wont hold my breath!!

[Cerberus]

Nice one David, now there's an idea for a reality docusoap!

[David Lever]

Yeah the idea of studs and studdesses unable to shag anyone but each other for 3 months would be entertaining, especially the blood bath at the end when they chain saw each other!

[Marino]

Now Now dasvid, no drifting into your own fantasy's again.

I am so glad you see the point about the one month tests, i still have not been answered regarding new models having to wait three months before starting work, as by jft's rules, then they would have to have three one month tests to satisfy the three month incubation period.

I am in full favour of keeping it as healthy as possible, but get the medical fact right before opening there gobs.

[Phil mCc]

David> if you were to be tested on say 1st March and got infected on the 10th March, you would happily receive at least 2 further monthly all clear tests.<
I can't believe you don't see this, so if you were infected on 10 th January but managed to clear your March test, you would be picked up in April not June or July. Basic maths David.
Now for the reality and I can see why everyone keeps on about incubation periods etc...This is not about HIV its about STD's if we could keep a firm idea what this is about it will help. We need to address this and find an answer. It has to be 30 days for everyone and no differece beteen amatuer and professions now lets make it work not sound off like fish wifes how it can't. We need genuine questions and answers tied to facts not theory's. We certainly don't need a bitch fight or a Kangaroo court.
Some actors have been in this industry a long time their voice will be heard, some producers have as well so they deserve input. As for agent's when they find a new girl you love them and when she does not turn up its their fault and you hate them. Who the fik would be one.
Now I for one am getting pissed of listening to this whole argument so it over. Now I am only saying what everyone else is thinking, we do not need to address the HIV to strongly because it will if ever be picked up as part of the complete screening which we need to get into a working system.
The simple answer is to agree who approaches who etc Heath Boards and such like. The suggestion that the clinics who test but don't issue a certificate should be contacted to see if they will issue a verbal to an appionted group (my idea) sounds good. Also a list of agreed test centres covering the UK. Lets face it if I can sort one out in Wishaw (famous for the Pie killing butcher) then there is room everywhere.
Emotions are running high right now, the UK industry is a bit of a mess, we are not acting very professional to the whole world is looking. Lets get together and sort OUR industry before its too late,

Phil McC

[Marino]

You don t think it's fucked already Jim. If a few more people actually spoke the truth, but unfortunately more people are concerned with self importance than actually telling the truth and doing thier jobs properly.

I for one will book who the fuck i like, and if jft media want to cause my company grief with thier bedroom policies i will implement some of my own policies, as I am fucking sick of reading this shit.

Any takers.

[Phil mCc]

Its late Marino, very late but not to late. As a race we British tend only to fight back when stuck in a corner and were in the corner. This test shit in nowt to do with JFT its do do with the STD's thats flying around and a few panic merchants.
We are all the same we shag who we want to and thats that. We just need to sort this testing thing out a bit better. You want that I know.
As for the Industry its going to harder before it gets better and at the end there will be few faces missing and thats a shame but its progress, we need a bit of a clean out thats for sure.
Your stuff is the most underestimated product in UK. All the SuperDick stuff/Ben Dover/ Search for a porn star etc etc now roadtrips. Tell me why you are not driving a Ferrari you know the answer but don't dwell on it, just don't make the same mistake again. I learned years ago from the stills trade, magazines would fuck you around with sets till they got you chasing them then they would buy a set just so the got to see who you had shot, they played this game with many photographers the Sat TV guys are doing the same. So are some of the distributers. We know who the big guys are we need to deal with them its that simple, we need to raise product awareness so they cannot afford not to have it in their shops.We need to have 1 mail order shop with all our stuff on it and everyone promoting it......give me a call when you get a second I did ask you to, I will put everyones product on my new shop within a few weeks including Private etc etc and work it out of Belgium like I do so we keep within the law. Dean is busy with this right now so within days it will start to happen.

BluePrint is about our industry and it will give power to the producers, actresses, industry who help now. If they don't then fuck them
I am doing stuff right now under the surface that will scare the pants off the industry when it all goes live. Fuck I just sold rights in Russia (thats the cold place that does not have video machines). I am planning an industry show, that will be packed because this year I am doing the publicty (I am good at that) I will have the Germany companies here this year and a close assosiation to Venus/AVN because thats what we need.
All I need is an industry to act like it deserves it and stop swabiling for the scraps left over from the big boys plates. Together we will get there Marino or together we will crack some sculls. I am getting a bit old for all this rolling around the playground stuff but sometimes you need to make a stand.

Phil McC

[Marino]

I will always stand your corner Jim,

[David Lever]

David> if you were to be tested on say 1st March and got infected on the 10th March, you would happily receive at least 2 further monthly all clear tests.<
I can't believe you don't see this, so if you were infected on 10 th January but managed to clear your March test, you would be picked up in April not June or July. Basic maths David.

I think you are missing my point, whatever happens if you have monthly tests, a positive result will only show 90 days after infection, so you will have had at least a few clear tests. So in principle the monthly test is worthless.

There is also research that suggests that the HIV virus, could remain dormant in the cells, for an indefinate time, causing no symptoms until it is activated by some other trauma, eg stress, vaccination of some kind, or depletion of the immune system, upon which the virus is activated and the body creates antibodies and then can be detected.
Other STD's are much more straightforward, as they tend to get in your system and get on with fucking you up, without all this hide and seek business.

So as I said before, if you are really concerned about HIV you shouldn't be shagging anybody at anytime EVER!! Perhaps joining a convent or monestary would be a good idea.But knowing the Catholic church, this might not be as safe as you think!!

Regards David

[David Lever]

Hi Marino, I agree with you. I think its all bollocks, I'm well into conspiracy theories, so what about this...........maybe there are people who want to keep all the work for themselves, by only working with other 30 day test people. This is good for us because we as producers can continue using the 3 month people, which will include all the people who maybe don't get enough work to warrant the expense of a monthly test.
So I say let them get on with it, what do you think, am I paranoid!!!!???
Also, since the 30 day test has no scientific basis, the only people who have to gain are the private clinics, maybe they are paying commission???
What do you think?? Am I paranoid!!??