Re: UFOs
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:04 am
[quote]If one makes the effort to look up the evidence, one has no sensible alternative but to conclude that these things are either extraterrestrial (which would include, I suppose, the bizarre scenarios of them coming from the bottom of the sea or from within the earth even) or extradimensional (which includes the dimension of time), regardless of what preconceived notions one might have had.[/quote]
Load of tripe.
'you have no alternative to conclude...' ? There are lots of alternatives.
Military testing and people who lie to persuade others of their fantastical wishes are two 'alternatives' I can think of straight away.
'If one makes the effort to look up the evidence,...' ? Many have; only a few have concluded extraterrestrial goings on. Asking people to look up the evidence is an old chestnut the creationists use. Their 'evidence' of Noah's flood is all the dead dinosaur bones we find.
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Wiseman A: "I wonder why people once thought the Sun went around the Earth?"
(not so)Wiseman B: "Well that's because it looks that way. The Sun comes up over those mountains in the east and sets over those trees to the west."
Wiseman A: "So how would they think it looked if the Earth moved around the Sun, like it does?"
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And talking of evidence: Aren't you the one who rubbished the evidence of man-made global warming; aren't you the one who disbelieves the evidence about passive smoking being a danger? But a few dubious authors scrape a little evidence together to support their belief of alien life shooting across our skies and you all of a sudden think this is the only creditable conclusion!
Oh, you never replied to my previous posting, replying to you, which I thought were common sense points.
I'm trying my best not to laugh, Steve, but I'm inclined to encourage you to just stick to playing the violin.
Load of tripe.
'you have no alternative to conclude...' ? There are lots of alternatives.
Military testing and people who lie to persuade others of their fantastical wishes are two 'alternatives' I can think of straight away.
'If one makes the effort to look up the evidence,...' ? Many have; only a few have concluded extraterrestrial goings on. Asking people to look up the evidence is an old chestnut the creationists use. Their 'evidence' of Noah's flood is all the dead dinosaur bones we find.
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Wiseman A: "I wonder why people once thought the Sun went around the Earth?"
(not so)Wiseman B: "Well that's because it looks that way. The Sun comes up over those mountains in the east and sets over those trees to the west."
Wiseman A: "So how would they think it looked if the Earth moved around the Sun, like it does?"
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And talking of evidence: Aren't you the one who rubbished the evidence of man-made global warming; aren't you the one who disbelieves the evidence about passive smoking being a danger? But a few dubious authors scrape a little evidence together to support their belief of alien life shooting across our skies and you all of a sudden think this is the only creditable conclusion!
Oh, you never replied to my previous posting, replying to you, which I thought were common sense points.
I'm trying my best not to laugh, Steve, but I'm inclined to encourage you to just stick to playing the violin.