You are rambling now.
I corrected your comment about major figures in Parliament not being sent down over expenses by pointing out that immorality is not necessarily a criminal offence itself which explains why not many MPs got sent down and then you start rambling on about immorality.
So I will leave you with one final comment/correction.
"Which ex-Labour cabinet minister got sent down for expenses theft/fraud?"
Elliott Morley.
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D
Gordon Brown
Re: Gordon Brown
In a nutshell:
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In a nutshell
Pity Alex, you didnt read the comments below the "article"
The general consensus is one of total contempt for this so-called political journalist, Alex Stevenson.
It's like reading any of the Murdoch press stories in the run-up to the last election. Maybe the guy is hoping for a job on the Sun on Sunday.
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D
The general consensus is one of total contempt for this so-called political journalist, Alex Stevenson.
It's like reading any of the Murdoch press stories in the run-up to the last election. Maybe the guy is hoping for a job on the Sun on Sunday.
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D
Re: Robches
David Johnson wrote:
> "no newspaper could print the details of a child's illness
> without breaking the PCC guidelines. There is no public
> interest defence. Brown could have told Rebekah Wade not to
> publish even if she wasn't his "friend."
>
> The NOTW apparently broke the PCC guidelines around 4,000 times
> with phone hacking. Do you think the same company would have
> decided "Oh no we cant break the PCC guidelines" Gordon has
> asked us not to print this story. The vast majority of stories
> the NOTW has printed in its long history have "no public
> interest defence"
>
> Are you bonkers?
>
> Cheers
> D
David:
The people the NOTW phone hacked did not know about it, so could hardly complain to the PCC. Rebekah Wade, Gordon's "friend", actually did him the courtesy of phoning him up before they ran the story. If he'd objected, they could not have run with it. Gordon could even have picked up the phone to his "friend" Rupert if need be, I'm sure he'd have taken his call. No, the truth is that Gordon is a spineless coward who was too scared of News International to get them to spike the story, and who, even after she "made him cry" continued to suck up to Rebekah Wade because he thought it was in his interests. Nwo she can't hurt him, he's quite prepared to kick her, but not when she had any power. He is a gutless, pathetic coward. I don't like John Prescott, but at least he had the guts to take on Rebekah and News International. Gordon's a creep, don't waste your time trying to defend him.
> "no newspaper could print the details of a child's illness
> without breaking the PCC guidelines. There is no public
> interest defence. Brown could have told Rebekah Wade not to
> publish even if she wasn't his "friend."
>
> The NOTW apparently broke the PCC guidelines around 4,000 times
> with phone hacking. Do you think the same company would have
> decided "Oh no we cant break the PCC guidelines" Gordon has
> asked us not to print this story. The vast majority of stories
> the NOTW has printed in its long history have "no public
> interest defence"
>
> Are you bonkers?
>
> Cheers
> D
David:
The people the NOTW phone hacked did not know about it, so could hardly complain to the PCC. Rebekah Wade, Gordon's "friend", actually did him the courtesy of phoning him up before they ran the story. If he'd objected, they could not have run with it. Gordon could even have picked up the phone to his "friend" Rupert if need be, I'm sure he'd have taken his call. No, the truth is that Gordon is a spineless coward who was too scared of News International to get them to spike the story, and who, even after she "made him cry" continued to suck up to Rebekah Wade because he thought it was in his interests. Nwo she can't hurt him, he's quite prepared to kick her, but not when she had any power. He is a gutless, pathetic coward. I don't like John Prescott, but at least he had the guts to take on Rebekah and News International. Gordon's a creep, don't waste your time trying to defend him.
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Re: Robches
We are obviously just going round in circles here. This is not about Gordon Brown so if you can set aside your intense hatred for one moment. This is about how the NOTW worked with regard to PCC guidelines.
1 You have absolutely no evidence that PCC guidelines were broken. You are just guessing, aren't you? Where is your evidence?
2. You seem obsessed, with saying over and over again. "If he'd objected, they could not have run with it." Has the NOTW throughout its history adhered to PCC guidelines as far as you know based on the stories that it has carried and what has emerged in the last few weeks. Yes or No?
3. Is it likely that such a newspaper would give a flying fuck as to whether it adhered to PCC guidelines or not. Yes or No
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D
1 You have absolutely no evidence that PCC guidelines were broken. You are just guessing, aren't you? Where is your evidence?
2. You seem obsessed, with saying over and over again. "If he'd objected, they could not have run with it." Has the NOTW throughout its history adhered to PCC guidelines as far as you know based on the stories that it has carried and what has emerged in the last few weeks. Yes or No?
3. Is it likely that such a newspaper would give a flying fuck as to whether it adhered to PCC guidelines or not. Yes or No
Cheers
D
Re: Gordon Brown
David:
Why do you think Rebekah phoned Gordon before running the story?
Why do you think Rebekah phoned Gordon before running the story?
Re: Gordon Brown
For the record:
PCC Editors' Code of Practice:
6. v) Editors must not use the fame, notoriety or position of a parent or guardian as sole justification for publishing details of a child's private life.
Apart from the fact that his father was PM, there was no reason to publish the details of Frazer Brown's illness. Therefore, if Brown had asked his "friend" Rebekah not to publish, she would not have had a leg to stand on. Instead, the coward let her publish and then cried himself to sleep because he was too fucking yellow to stand up to News International. I read today of a father who drowned trying to save his daughter from the River Thames. Gordon Brown didn't even have the guts to tell Rebekah Wade not to run a story. Really, he is as contemptible as News International, and his assumption of moral outrage is literally sickening.
PCC Editors' Code of Practice:
6. v) Editors must not use the fame, notoriety or position of a parent or guardian as sole justification for publishing details of a child's private life.
Apart from the fact that his father was PM, there was no reason to publish the details of Frazer Brown's illness. Therefore, if Brown had asked his "friend" Rebekah not to publish, she would not have had a leg to stand on. Instead, the coward let her publish and then cried himself to sleep because he was too fucking yellow to stand up to News International. I read today of a father who drowned trying to save his daughter from the River Thames. Gordon Brown didn't even have the guts to tell Rebekah Wade not to run a story. Really, he is as contemptible as News International, and his assumption of moral outrage is literally sickening.
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Robches
Given your total failure to answer the questions I put to you, you have a nerve to ask me a question, but since I do not have the same terror at answering specific questions as you clearly do....
"Why do you think Rebekah phoned Gordon before running the story?"
I think News International had a story that they were going to run with, so Rebekah Wade phoned Gordon Brown to let him know that this was going to appear in the newspaper and was looking for some comments/confirmation around it which she could add to the story that they were going to print anyway.
Given you are clearly struggling about the issue of PCC guidelines and the News International's history of keeping to them or otherwise, which is why you didnt answer any of my questions, I will help you out.
Read this
http://experts.blogs.lincoln.ac.uk/2011 ... l-spreads/
And I draw your attention to this phrase
"Despite the liberality of this clause, it is hard to see how the public interest defence can be effectively mobilized by the Sun in this case, particularly if Mr Brown sticks to his line that any consent to publication was effectively forced out of him while he was in a vulnerable state of grief."
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D
"Why do you think Rebekah phoned Gordon before running the story?"
I think News International had a story that they were going to run with, so Rebekah Wade phoned Gordon Brown to let him know that this was going to appear in the newspaper and was looking for some comments/confirmation around it which she could add to the story that they were going to print anyway.
Given you are clearly struggling about the issue of PCC guidelines and the News International's history of keeping to them or otherwise, which is why you didnt answer any of my questions, I will help you out.
Read this
http://experts.blogs.lincoln.ac.uk/2011 ... l-spreads/
And I draw your attention to this phrase
"Despite the liberality of this clause, it is hard to see how the public interest defence can be effectively mobilized by the Sun in this case, particularly if Mr Brown sticks to his line that any consent to publication was effectively forced out of him while he was in a vulnerable state of grief."
Cheers
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Threads
Will you ever get the hang of threads?
I have answered your question elsewhere.
I have answered your question elsewhere.