Revolution Needed

[Sam Slater]

Do you ever answer questions?

[Sam Slater]

Stop trolling, PH. You asked me a question and I replied. I'd have thought a man who thinks so highly of himself as you do wouldn't want to be seen as having the discourtesy of not returning the favour and answering my questions.

You didn't answer because you know your position is silly. If you'd answered: "No, having more money doesn't make you a better person.", then your question on that would indeed have been pointless to the discussion. And my general point with the hero rascal would have shown your logic about not being lazy making you a better person is either wrong, or more accurately overly simplistic.

If you'd answered: "Yes, having more money makes you a better person.", I'd have obviously given you plenty of examples what I think would challenge that view and ask you about them. For example: Since Hitler had more money than Miep Gies would that have made him a better person? Since John Terry has more money than the volunteers feeding the homeless in the local shelters over Christmas, does that make him a better person? Katie Price has more money than your average midwife so does that make her a better person? And on we go....

It was checkmate, hence the fucking around and dodging my questions.

[Sam Slater]

Again, how can 'power' be ceremonial? The showing of power could be, but not the power itself. The Queen either has armies swearing allegiance to her or she doesn't. Armies swearing allegiance to you either gives you power or it doesn't. You can choose to exercise that power or not.

Like I replied to Mike, if the UK ever voted in a Putinesque party/leader who had such a large majority they changed things to make it almost impossible for us to vote out, the one thing he/she/they wouldn't have to turn this nation into some sort of military dictatorship is an army. The only person who could challenge and remove such an aggressive and dictatorial party/leader would be the monarch and his/her armies.....(or some foreign power).

Not exercising your power doesn't make it ceremonial, though some of your duties due to having that power may be. To help understand I'll return to my axe analogy:

Having an axe gives me the power to chop off your head. I have that power whether I chop off your head or I do not. Making my axe nice and shiny and showing it to you twice a year is the ceremony. Got it? See the difference now? Maybe after years and years of polishing my axe and showing it you twice a year you forget that it has a sharp edge that can hurt you if I decide to use it. All that's left in your mind is the ritual of me showing it off twice a year. Come ooooooooonnnnnn!!! I don't need to explain this again do I? You get it now - I know you do!!!!

[quote]If the monarchy tries to make political decisions then that would very swiftly be the end of the monarchy's role in politics.[/quote]

That would depend on the circumstances and whether the people agreed/wanted/needed her intervention, wouldn't it? And turning it around, this is why no political party has tried to get rid of the monarchy all together. I mean, if you're a minister you don't really want an unelected monarch/lord/bishop overruling you, do you?

[quote]"The Monarch takes little direct part in Government. The decisions to exercise sovereign powers are delegated from the Monarch, either by statute or by convention, to Ministers or officers of the Crown, or other public bodies, exclusive of the Monarch personally. Thus the acts of state done in the name of the Crown, such as Crown Appointments, even if personally performed by the Monarch, such as the Queen's Speech and the State Opening of Parliament, depend upon decisions made elsewhere"[/quote]

These 'decisions made elsewhere' only tell half the story. The Queen take advice on these decisions because it is customary. She can, at any time, refuse advice and there's nothing parliament can do.

[Sam Slater]

I only seem to make sensible posts when it's not you I'm debating. Funny that!

[eroticartist]

The Officer Class is the Upper Class and are in reality in charge and if it came to it the would obey the Queen. Hence Montbatten went to the Queen and
asked permission to impose military rule at the time of the Wilson government. The tanks would have rolled down Whitehall if she had granted permission.
Mike.

[David Johnson]

Like I said you got yourself into a real mess on this one.

I will leave you to your "musings on power".

Cheers
D

[David Johnson]

" only seem to make sensible posts when it's not you I'm debating. Funny that!"

No. Some of your posts in debating with me have been intelligent, well argued and interesting.

Your "musings on power" are well shite though!


Cheers
D

[Sam Slater]

If I'm in a mess you must be inside out. I'm still miffed you never told me how your christmas was, after I'd gone to the trouble of enquiring.

Some people, eh?