Was 9/11 an inside job by the White House ?

[c.j.jaxxon]

Take a look at what NandoRick's got! You might change yo mind!

[c.j.jaxxon]

Hey Flat! Check out what NandoRick's got! You might want to take a look at this!

[c.j.jaxxon]

You know what Nandorick? I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I do believe that there are some underhanded things going on in this world and while I don't necessarily believe that anything else brought those towers down besides those planes I always keep an open mind. You did however reminded me of the other buildings that went down without a single thing hitting them. (the ones AROUND the World Trade Center) I thought that was pretty interesting when I saw a one year special on 9/11 and they mentioned other buildings going down without no rhyme or reason. I think they blamed some of it on so-called "falling debris".

[Flat_Eric]

c.j.

Okay I've taken a look and am less than impressed.

It's all just one bloke's speculation. Hardly very convincing. No evidence whatsoever is put forward (just one man's subjective opinions) and the article is peppered with qualifications like:

"his convictions" .... "he concluded that" ..... "David Griffin believes it was an inside job .... I think that it was too" .... "I have since decided that"

NandoRick also fails to provide the source of this article - what's the betting he found it on some conspiracy theory Web site?

The "controlled explosions" nonsense has been rubbished time and again by many civil engineers, structural engineers and materials scientists the world over - yet still the conspiracies persist because people WANT to believe it was a conspiracy. So every so often, the conspiracy theorists wheel out some alternative "expert" to trot out the tired old controlled explosions mantra all over again.

[Mysteryman]

Saw it, read it and my mind is not changed. There are many legitimate and many spurious items on that list.

[Mysteryman]

Agreed Flat Eric.

Plenty of rubbish out there.

[Bubo]

Then again, who's the biggest expert on the goings on in the CIA and the US government, you, or an ex-CIA operative? If this had all come from Joe Bloggs down the road I might agree that he's just taking a wild guess, but this guy is an expert in the US secret service! Speaking of which, didn't Bin Laden once work for the CIA? Maybe he still does?

[Mysteryman]

Bubo,

There have been more people claiming, falsely, to be ex members of Secret Services, with inside, significant, information than I have had hot dinners.

It is an easy way to make money as there are plenty of unscrupulous publishers who can easily sell far fetched tales to the gullible.

Now the particular guy in question may well have been employed by the CIA. But at what level - and how do YOU know EXACTLY what that level in the CIA is party to in terms of information, disinformation, planning, activities and operations?

From what we do know of the various secret operations bodies in various countries around the world, to preserve secrecy they operate in a byzantine fashion, "need to know" levels are multi-faceted and multi layered and few would have enough knowledge to be able to prove, on their own, the type of info being put out by this guy.

Whilst you are thinking about that, you might like to come up with your sources, any pictures and any details of the 767-like USAF surveillance aircraft you mentioned a few days ago.

As the only person in the world that seems to know about it, I can put you in touch with a good number of aviation magazines, both trade and enthusiast, some of whom would pay good money for details which would indicate your information is beyond reasonable doubt.

[NandoRick]

"you might like to come up with your sources, any pictures and any details of the 767-like USAF surveillance aircraft"

I don't know Bubo , so i don't want to speak on his behave,but i think he might be talking about this plane.

[Bubo]

Yep, that's the one that I saw on TV some time back. I also found something similar (but nowhere near as good) HERE.