UKAP Awards.

[one eyed jack]

Jim I think that was a standard we set ourselves as members. It cannot be enforced outside of UKAP. Come to think of it it can't be enforced within but it was an agreement we made to deal with a standard and fair rate fo rmodels/performers.

I would hate to think producers wouldnt want to associate with us if they can get an anal scene out of some por wide eyed newbie for 40 quid but then that would be at that producer and models discretion.

I really hope that is not your main gripe with UKAP Jim because I for one would like to see you return to the fold because I've always valued your input, opinion and respect your work.

You think we are being too serious about this but lok at how the industry has evolved over the years. That change has come because like it or not there is a symbiotic relationship with every producer for better or worse.

I can think of one big example in the monthly HIV/STD testing which was the best thing that came out of BAIHA before it floundered but it remains with us today.

Hey, we still have a jolly good piss up and a laugh between dealing with issues. UKAP would never have been if AITA looked out for producers interests as well as their retailers but I think this really is not the best place to be discussing such things as I dont really believe AITA to be the enemy some think it is. In fact I think they could be a useful ally. It just depends whether they share the same view about us.

Jim you face all the same problems as the rest of us. Like I always say, together we stand, divided we fall.

[videokim]

1. 86% take on the downloads is downright robbery & how do you justify this amount anyway so no it don't do us producers any favours.

2. Its common knowledge in the industry David as something to do with you & your business & what to what levels i don't know & dont care to know.

3. If the above is not correct i do owe you an apology & i am sorry & if you are paying a better percent now your site is doing so well i'm sure lots of producers will say i'm wrong.

4. There is also talk from various sources that the BBFC will try to cert. British UK sites next year sometime & if this the case those who know this knowledge have a duty to warn their fellow workmates unless they stand to profit. If its not the case i am wrong but if it is the truth & certain people know of it they would not be able to hold their head up in public or be trusted again if they did not share this knowledge.

I stand by what i said that i found you a nice bloke & yes you should be allowed to go to any event & for saying you should not was out of order
and i am sorry.

John

[videokim]

Hi Terry

I did not mean to slate David Sullivan & owe the man an a apology as i was using him as a main player in the industry for an example, members of my family worked for him years ago packing mags in a warehouse when he first started. I respect the way he has built up a business & for what he done getting R18 films on the high street but he & his businesses will profit from changes in UK web-sites which is great for him but not the small producer.
Yes if a producers web site as an whole gets a BBFC thats not to bad but if each individual film has to have a BBFC cert most sites would be affected.
Me & Kim have always found you a fair & honest person Terry and could not think of a better person to be on the UKAP commitee, we know you have the interests of all producers big or small when having talks with various parties.

John

[Cenobitez]

Jerry without pissing on your chips, but on the scale of sites of your variety (movies online) SB aint even the biggest or the oldest in the world is it ?

I heard HotMovies was WAY bigger and older (this is rumour I don't know), so wouldnt they be taking over your volcano ? or are you secretly merging with them ?

I think people see how much money SB put into marketting and promotion and see it as hostile rather than good busines sense.

[Cenobitez]

I challenged a lady called Jodie from BlueBird on that very fact, (hi J). After reading the entry requirements (as posted by RZ), it seems the film doesnt HAVE to be released.

All that is required is a Screen or indeed version of the film is submitted to Red Zone who then decide if its up or not. It doesnt matter if its out for public release or not, since the fans have ZERO say in what wins.

Bluebird didnt admit or deny sending the screeners/footage in, because the conversation was interupted by her lunch arriving, however they did confirm they have a large proportion of finished movies just waiting to sampled to website resolution from HD, so its not unheard of that they have submitted to it.

I also asked lots of uncomfortable questions and raised concerns and issues, which she politely answered and was very open about, even gave me her card to contact her should i need to.

[dedra]

Chris
So what are your thoughts of a certain Nottingham lass who appeared in RP and adult vids?

[Sam Slater]

We had this debate on the promo forums in the summer didn't we? No one will listen, nor care, until something bad happens. We all know this, and they'll just blame the European girls that come over rather than themselves.

I feel sorry for the girls who want to make a career in the business these days. Being forced to pay over ?100 for a test to say she's clean, only to work with girls who've screwed 5 or 6 untested punters over the weekend. It's fucking hilarious.

Is JayK still editing posts on his site, if the forum members disagree with his views?

[Deuce Bigolo]

Awards only ever mean something to those receiving them

[komage]

Marino I can see why you're not coming now mate. I know there are politics (Bolotics) in all industries but this thread has found itself becoming ironic. I don't blame you for not attending. Shit floats to the top and unless the top people in this industry sort out the problems I can see it no longer being fun.

[Deuce Bigolo]

Things have changed this week for me, and due to politics I will be at the awards..

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