Oxford street stabbing

[Sam Slater]

Best wishes for the coming year to you, too.

[jimslip]

Unlike the Uk Thailand is an impoverished country.UK citizens are awash with benefits and so there is even LESS excuse for criminals to be allowed to run amok with absolutley no fear of the law.

People like you love to machine gun their stats at everyone to "prove" a point. You can fire a "Stat" that "Proves" one thing and someone else can fire a "Stat" back that "Proves" something else. That's why PMQ's are so boring nowadays. Your use of selective "Stats" is so tiresome and so old style, "Soviet Union", give us a break. Haven't you heard the saying! "Lies, damned lies and statistics?"

I am sure you have a selective "Stat" to suit all occasions. However, have you got a stat for the millions of crimes committed in the UK that are never reported to the police or crime stats which the police have massaged or filed into places that, "Don't count" as crime? No, I'm sure you don't!

Have you got a "Stat" for the 100's thousands of people living in fear of anti social wankers who make their lives a misery on estates everywhere, people who don't believe the police will act and so don't bother to report it. No, of course you don't. Why? Because if you add the REAL number of crimes being committed in the UK in any one year and factored in the wealth and benefits that all enjoy here and compared it to the abject poverty of the Thais we'd probably be horrified! In reality, not only is there no valid reason for the UK crime wave, but
crime in Thailand is a result of desperation whereas crime in the UK is an act of selfishness.

British "petty" criminals, you know the ones that kick some poor bastard so badly that he ends up eating through a straw for the rest of his life, criminals that you believe we should try to "Understand and nurture through careful placement of cosy furnishings, plasma TV's and PS3's!"

The problem with the "Bleedin heart" brigade is that they secretly believe that whatever the crime, the victim probably "Deserved" it in some way. Maybe they were richer, better looking, better dressed, who knows, but that's why the "Woolly jumpered, bearded", right on brigade never give a toss for the victims, but gush with sympathy for people who commit crimes like this:





i presume you weep for the perpetrators of these crimes? I presume you believe that should be sent on safaris to Kenya to find their, "True selves"! You are outraged that people like me do not wish to, "Understand" them!

I like millions of others believe that these bastards are soft, yellow bellied cowards and when caught should be buried alive in a stinking cesspit like the Bangkok Hilton!

Put these bastards through the Thai prison system and as I have already said, crime would plummet to virtually zero in the UK. By the way, I know you'll be carefully rummaging through your sack of stats so you can launch the inevitable return tsunami of gobblegook, please don't bother!!happy!

[Sam Slater]

[quote]Unlike the Uk Thailand is an impoverished country.UK citizens are awash with benefits and so there is even LESS excuse for criminals to be allowed to run amok with absolutley no fear of the law.[/quote]

I didn't say they did.

[quote]People like you....[/quote]

Here we go. When I started defending the abolishment side I knew someone would resort to the 'people like you' retort. To give you some credit you've not mentioned the embarrassingly clich?d 'bleeding heart' phrase yet.

[quote]love to machine gun their stats at everyone to "prove" a point. You can fire a "Stat" that "Proves" one thing and someone else can fire a "Stat" back that "Proves" something else.[/quote]

Fuck me, I only pointed out the murder rate in Thailand was nearly 5 times that of the UK. If my stat was wrong, or misleading, point it out! If I'm right just concede the bloody point and move on. No need to get all huffy about it.

[quote]I am sure you have a selective "Stat" to suit all occasions.[/quote]

No, sadly I do not. Take heart from this, though, because it leaves room for you to tell us one of your daft conspiracy theories. (of course, the 'stats' that seem to prove these theories you don't complain about).

[quote]However, have you got a stat for the millions of crimes committed in the UK that are never reported to the police or crime stats which the police have massaged or filed into places that, "Don't count" as crime? No, I'm sure you don't![/quote]

You're so right! This means you have an opportunity to wedge in one of your conspiracy theories. I'm sure there is lots of unreported crimes in the UK and hardly any in Thailand. Don't let any pesky stats get in the way of that, Jim. Stay strong.

[quote]Have you got a "Stat" for the 100's thousands of people living in fear of anti social wankers who make their lives a misery on estates everywhere, people who don't believe the police will act and so don't bother to report it. No, of course you don't. Why? Because if you add the REAL number of crimes being committed in the UK in any one year and factored in the wealth and benefits that all enjoy here and compared it to the abject poverty of the Thais we'd probably be horrified![/quote]

Paedophile rings and high murder rates or cider-fueled teenagers kicking in bus-stops? Hmmm........it's a hard one, Jim. It's like you're lifting the veil from my very eyes.

[quote]In reality, not only is there no valid reason for the UK crime wave, but
crime in Thailand is a result of desperation whereas crime in the UK is an act of selfishness.[/quote]

If you say so, Jim. I mean, without stats to back up what you say I'll just have to take your word for it. Wouldn't it be great if we had a world where there were no stats and we just took everyone's word for it. Pesky stats. Who needs 'em!

[quote]British "petty" criminals, you know the ones that kick some poor bastard so badly that he ends up eating through a straw for the rest of his life, criminals that you believe we should try to "Understand and nurture through careful placement of cosy furnishings, plasma TV's and PS3's!"[/quote]

Oh no. You obviously know what I'm thinking. Get out of my head, Jim! GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!

[quote]The problem with the "Bleedin heart" brigade is that they secretly believe that whatever the crime, the victim probably "Deserved" it in some way. [/quote]

Lol. You said it. You said 'bleeding heart'. OMFG!!! And you're still in my head, Jim. Don't you have no scruples about invading another man's privacy, ffs?

[quote]Maybe they were richer, better looking, better dressed, who knows, but that's why the "Woolly jumpered, bearded", right on brigade never give a toss for the victims, but gush with sympathy for people who commit crimes like this:[/quote]

I can see the ads promoting capital punishment now. They'll be like the Gillette Fusion or Lynx commercials where bikini-clad models chase round hunky executioners. We'll get Brad Pitt with his shirt off just casually leaning against a gleaming guillotine, bronzed torso just at the right angle from the searing sun, defining the muscular leanness of his body, head 90 degrees from the camera, in profile, gazing over yonder horizon looking for some ne'er do well to decapitate. We'll get Kelly Brook in from the side, mopping his brow, making sure water splashes over her already moist skin and running down her neck line, between the clavicles and into her bosom. In the other ad we've got George Clooney in a doctor's coat, pen in his upper-left pocket and hair immaculately groomed, walking down a gloomy corridor into a fluorescent-lit room with sound-proofed window. He leans over a man, strapped to a bed with thick leather straps. The man's veins are bulging, eyes wide with fear.......mouth grimacing. George pulls out a large syringe and before injecting the the trembling wreck strapped to the bed, he turns to look through that window where we've got Sofia Vergara sat amongst a few witnesses. She's a low-cut, single-breasted suit hanging off her dainty shoulders, breasts pressed together and chest slowly raising and falling. Her head is lowered and we can see a sole tear racing haphazardly down her right cheek. She's looking through the window back and George and he gives her a long smouldering look that says 'don't worry, be strong'. She finally nods and turns away, bringing a silk hanky up to her streaming eyes. George turns back to the man and we see his strong jaw muscles clench as he firmly plunges the syringe, contents and all, into the man's upper arm..............

............of course, we'll have to get a few shots of Mr. Bean and Harry Redknapp as the abolitionists outside with their dozy placards. It's be wonderful, Jim. Honest, I think we can achieve something here.

[quote]Put these bastards through the Thai prison system and as I have already said, crime would plummet to virtually zero in the UK.[/quote]

Virtually zero, eh? Man I'd like to know how you came to that conclusion. I mean, you don't mess around with stats so you must have somehow thought it up all by yourself. I could tell you that prisoners in the Japanese penal system are treated much more humanely than, say the prisoners in the Brazilian penal system, yet Brazil has a bigger problem with crime than Japan. But that would be one of those pesky stats again that irritates you so much. So I'll not mention that and again will have to take your word for it cos you're special. You don't bother with facts and figures before coming to a decision. You just.......well.......I dunno. Do you decide by the 'eeny meeny miny mo' method or put your ideas down on pieces of paper and pluck them out of a hat?

[quote]By the way, I know you'll be carefully rummaging through your sack of stats so you can launch the inevitable return tsunami of gobblegook, please don't bother![/quote]

Nah, as you can see I just went for the piss-taking, sarcastic reply.......so you were wrong......which means you're not in my head after all! Phew!

Man, you craaazy!



P.s. I couldn't finish off without pointing one stat out, though, Jim. You seemingly made excuses for the Thai murder rate in your reply, saying they were 'desperate' yet you labelled me the 'bleeding heart liberal'.

Man, you craaaaaazy!

[tuf766]

My mate spent 5 years in a thai prison for a relatively petty crime something you'd get a slap on the wrist for here in Britain, he's now back in the UK and as a result of the harsh environment of the prison there he is now a paranoid schizophrenic!