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Re: Should heroin be given on the NHS?

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:22 am
by Gentleman
As a case in point to explain the resources these scum consume. i work in a hostel for ex offenders (although using the term ex is somewhat of a joke) recently within the space of 1 week the paramedics were called to deal with a skaghead and his friends overdosing 3 times.

these are the times we were there for but we know that this happened 2 other times that same week but what they do is drag ther junkie out and dump them around the corner and then call the paramedics.

These scum dont just drop dead they have a nasty habit of living and carry on doing the same thing, they also carry on when one of their "friends" od with them and drops dead.

As i said before flood the market with spiked gear and kill em off it would be evolution in action.

Re: Should heroin be given on the NHS?

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:57 pm
by LaraLee
warren zevon rip wrote:

> yup, but do the same with alcohol - at least be consistent -
> don't pick on one group of drug addicts while ignoring a bigger
> group of other drug addicts

I agree with you just the week before last, a friend of mine died from an alcohol related illness(he was an alchololic basically).


Re: Should heroin be given on the NHS?

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:03 pm
by Gentleman
i totally agree about alcohol and am consistant in my attitudes to both groups that they are both a waste of space.

At present amongst my serivce users i have 2 alcoholics one of which has had 4 detoxes within the past 5 months and another who has had 2 within 6 months the second started drinking as soon as he left.

But like it or not drugs are ilegal and booze isnt.

Re: Should heroin be given on the NHS?

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:28 pm
by Gentleman
No one has stated one abuse is better than another or more acceptable.

Re: Should heroin be given on the NHS?

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:07 pm
by Gentleman
Please re-read my statement "No one has stated one abuse is better than another or more acceptable" The impotant word here is abuse which is when something is taken to extremes and becomes a risk.

At no point did i say it alcohol aqbuse is more acceptable i only stated that alcohol is legal.

Re: Should heroin be given on the NHS?

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:55 pm
by Sam Slater
Come on! Alcohol is much more widely used -quite safely- throughout Europe and doesn't have the highly addictive affects as heroin. Don't give me that 'pure alcohol is more potent' crap either because pure alcohol wouldn't have the same 'feel good' factor (if the user actually survived a 'pure alcohol dose!) and thus wouldn't be as popular.

Forget bringing up the legalities of certain drugs either -whilst bringing morality into it- because like law, morality changes too, and who decides what's moral anyway? Some people might think it's immoral of me to discuss British current affairs on a porn forum, while I don't see the immorality of it. Legality & morality are not always walking the same path.

Heroin is illegal, heroin is highly addictive, heroin results in more death & crime than alcohol -relatively speaking- and heroin is just basically more dangerous with more unpredictable results than alcohol.

You cannot be consistent with the 2 drugs in question, as both have different affects, different dangers, and different acceptability within communities. Thus the legality of the two drugs differ.

Pretty sensible really.