Re: Link of F911review form your own paper!
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:42 pm
"If you know the producer's bend...why must one see it to comment on it?"
Feel free to comment on it - but any such comment will clearly be prejudiced and ill-informed.
"I have not listened to most Madonna albums, but have heard enough to know what 99% of her recordings are going to be like...right?"
Wrong - I don't like most of Madonna's music, some has been rubbish but some has been perfectly adequate IMO. Therefore I wouldn't pass any definitive comment on her next record before hearing it.
Saying that, I can be fairly certain that I won't like J-Lo's next musical attempt. But that is through-away pop music you either like or dislike - so you're comparing very different things.
I can be fairly certain that I won't agree with Andrew Roberts' (a right-wing UK historian) next TV programme. But it would, at least, have the benefits of being competently made and thought-provoking (as f911 appears to be) so I wouldn't condemn it without seeing it and would be happy to watch it.
I liked Moore's TV Nation and the Downsize This book. I didn't particularly like Stupid White Men. I have no idea whether or not I'd like F911, but I assume from his past work and from the generally postive reviews that F911 is at least thought provoking.
"So, why can't I comment on Moore's latest film?"
Again - you could comment - but it would be uninformed and prejudiced comment. So far you've linked to a review which comes out against the film (a review clearly in the minority) and have compared Moore to Goebells. You have expressed an excessive opinion about a film you've not seen based on reading highly selective reviews. So don't be surprised if people don't take your comments seriously.
"I have no problems with viewing ficticious movies, but have a problem when the producer states "we've got truth on our side" in interviews, when it can be proven he is an outright liar."
I'm not aware of any outright lies in Moore's work - I am aware of the fact that he formulates arguments from selective use of data. But these are 2 different things. If comment is to be restricted to the telling of "facts" that everyone agrees are true and which incontrovertibly reflect all available information - then no-one will ever make a comment again.
Mel Gibson's the Passion of Christ told "the truth" in his eyes. The fact that I'm an atheist didn't put me off going to see what was, in some ways, a good, thought-provoking film.
"Its too bad that criticism of the president always has to come from the people blinded by the opposite ideology, instead of those that could provide only the facts. I'd really like to know the truth,"
There is no single, simple, truth that someones going to tell you. The best you can do is work out your own truth from the information available. Clearly Moore's film isn't 100% factually untrue and its received extremely good reviews, so why not go along and watch it to see which bits you discard out of hand and which bits give you cause for concern. You would then have more chance of expressing a reasoned, considered opinion.
Feel free to comment on it - but any such comment will clearly be prejudiced and ill-informed.
"I have not listened to most Madonna albums, but have heard enough to know what 99% of her recordings are going to be like...right?"
Wrong - I don't like most of Madonna's music, some has been rubbish but some has been perfectly adequate IMO. Therefore I wouldn't pass any definitive comment on her next record before hearing it.
Saying that, I can be fairly certain that I won't like J-Lo's next musical attempt. But that is through-away pop music you either like or dislike - so you're comparing very different things.
I can be fairly certain that I won't agree with Andrew Roberts' (a right-wing UK historian) next TV programme. But it would, at least, have the benefits of being competently made and thought-provoking (as f911 appears to be) so I wouldn't condemn it without seeing it and would be happy to watch it.
I liked Moore's TV Nation and the Downsize This book. I didn't particularly like Stupid White Men. I have no idea whether or not I'd like F911, but I assume from his past work and from the generally postive reviews that F911 is at least thought provoking.
"So, why can't I comment on Moore's latest film?"
Again - you could comment - but it would be uninformed and prejudiced comment. So far you've linked to a review which comes out against the film (a review clearly in the minority) and have compared Moore to Goebells. You have expressed an excessive opinion about a film you've not seen based on reading highly selective reviews. So don't be surprised if people don't take your comments seriously.
"I have no problems with viewing ficticious movies, but have a problem when the producer states "we've got truth on our side" in interviews, when it can be proven he is an outright liar."
I'm not aware of any outright lies in Moore's work - I am aware of the fact that he formulates arguments from selective use of data. But these are 2 different things. If comment is to be restricted to the telling of "facts" that everyone agrees are true and which incontrovertibly reflect all available information - then no-one will ever make a comment again.
Mel Gibson's the Passion of Christ told "the truth" in his eyes. The fact that I'm an atheist didn't put me off going to see what was, in some ways, a good, thought-provoking film.
"Its too bad that criticism of the president always has to come from the people blinded by the opposite ideology, instead of those that could provide only the facts. I'd really like to know the truth,"
There is no single, simple, truth that someones going to tell you. The best you can do is work out your own truth from the information available. Clearly Moore's film isn't 100% factually untrue and its received extremely good reviews, so why not go along and watch it to see which bits you discard out of hand and which bits give you cause for concern. You would then have more chance of expressing a reasoned, considered opinion.