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Re: What is it with all this slut stuff...

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:33 pm
by satch9
sadly not everyone in this industry has your outlook and values Iain.

stick with theough eh, i for one love your work.

Re: What is it with all this slut stuff...

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:54 am
by KazB
Interesting one...

The term "slut" has become a term of endearment amongst my friends and I, as well as the phrase 'sexy little bitch'. I even call some of my male subs it who love it! However some find it offensive so it's not something that should be forced on a performer.

The term 'tramp' is utterly disparaging and how unsexy!!!! What is sexy about identifying a performer with a homeless tramp who tends to be associated with being unclean, sleeping on park benches, swigging booze from paper bags and begging for money?

Perhaps it's a lack of imagination on the producers part for want of better phrases?


Re: What is it with all this slut stuff...

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:45 pm
by pbphotography
Perhaps it's a lack of imagination on the producers part for want of better phrases?

Probubly right

Re: What is it with all this slut stuff...

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:51 pm
by sparky
Interesting comments Kaz and much depends on each person's definition of slut.

To me the danger is slut implying someone is a prostitute and/or loose girl who seeks one night stands not the porn model / performer / actress they actually are.


Re: What is it with all this slut stuff...

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:40 pm
by Biscuity
A lot of the dialogue used on adult sites is very crude. The professional process is indeed based on respect, but in some cases the finished product is marketed using some very vulgar terms.

Even sft porn/open leg will talk about "See this horny girl rub her cunt, thinking of her boyfriends rock hard cock..." etc.

It always surprises me that so many non-adult models are happy to appear on sites that use that kind of markerting with their models. Po$$ibly threre is a reason for it?

Re: What is it with all this slut stuff...

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:11 pm
by Biscuity
No-one says performers should be labelled sluts to their face- its all about marketing.

Calling someone a slut, is it really any worse than saying an established porn star is a "innocent newcomer?" Its just how people sell their stuff.

Re: What is it with all this slut stuff...

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:24 pm
by Paul Taylor
I call them things like slut or whore for the sack of the scene, how ever I usually warn them of how the language will go down, and because when filming finishes I turn back to the nice guy I was before we started I see it as a porn thing, but I'd never refer to a women as anything like that in a general post, unless I was promoting a scene and even then thats not usually my style. Basically I think theres a time and place for this type of thing if the material you are shooting calls for it, but referring to people the way some have is just pain out wrong.

Paul


Re: What is it with all this slut stuff...

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:03 am
by Pianaman
Hi you guys are giving me a good reason to join your sites again lol. I hate this tendency towards violence in porn - it's just a turn off whether it's language or action (fake or not). For me eroticism, personality, beauty and tenderness are what get me excited and I like women to be themselves, not some submissive object being abused.

Re: What is it with all this slut stuff...

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:43 pm
by one eyed jack
I think this topic was best answered in 9 To 5 days In Porn that came out last year

The whole rough sex thing wasnt done deliberatley out of misogyny but more for to compensate for partaking in hardcore sex without the emotions that come with it.

In other words, after the scene was done, both parties could walk away and say "thanks for the fuck. See you later" without being weirded out by all that "love shit"

It is a dehumanising process done in a civil way but everyone knows that once those emotions of love creep in, it gets in the way of business and making money. Far easier to be detached, though easier said than done from what Ive seen in the UK