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Rob mate let it go as we have shown you we too have released R18 DVD's so its no big deal having hits films as we also have been there & bought the t-shirt, you films are aimed at men who like to see women treated different (being polite) where ours are aimed at the average couple, females & single blokes. Forget Pro & Am & look at the real picture, yes you did have good backing from Hot Rod to get you started but with out their help you would not have made the films you did.
Give any of us long term producers the money you got & we could all do glossy movies, are we bothered by your lucky push..no way we enjoy what we do & we got their all by ourselves . As for being anti Pro thats rubbish as we have quite a few Pro friends who turn out glossy titles.

Quote : I'm not interested in handing my hard work over to line someone elses pockets for a ?100 a month paycheck. If I could ever have been bothered, I would have set up a members site. But porno doesn't interest me enough any more to want to make a full time job out of it. Videokim has a different attitude because it's all they want from their life - and good luck to them.

If you are really that naive to think thats all we do ?100 (laughing my head off) no wonder you left the industry, type in Kims Amateurs on Google then type in ********** it & see who has more pages or would it lines in your case..try it

Quote : Can you imagine if I came up here for two minutes and started banging on about how fucking great all my work is.

If you read the threads above all you have done is bang on about how great your work is & how shitty ours is, ours has the peoples vote all the time so we don't need to boast like you. As for 'production value' one of our films could earn the same as yours & we don't need backing. you are the most egotistic person i have come across & so far up your own arse you have a brown nose.

Qoute : Throw a brick in a sex shop and you will hit two dozen amateur sex tapes of some housewife screwing badly in the shadows with ugly strangers.

Thank fuck for that has they would never find your few titles, content always outsells quality, first rule of Porn but you have not been in the industry long enough to know that yet.
And finally we have had an exclusive position in the Amateur market long before you appeared on the scene & well after your 'demise'.

John

P.S. Prove me wrong & do another hit film or have you run out of backers?

You said:

"Given the chance of having their faces spat at or their arses slapped hard, I'm sure most civilian girls in the real world would jump at the chance as opposed to having a gang of 20 sweaty, middle aged men tugging their stunted gnarly dicks all over their faces."

Just to confirm, you are suggesting or in fact stating, that in the wider general public, a typical woman, would, given the choice, rather be, spat at, abused, slapped, humiliated, beaten and presumably enjoy all the activities that you depict in your films, rather than enjoying a consensual gang-bang or bukkake, with none of the aforementioned included?

I would wager, that they would prefer neither, but if forced they would choose the latter. I think whether the gang-bang was made up of middle aged men, or oily body-builders, would be, neither here nor there.

Rob have you seen any of my work and if so what do you think as I know you will be honest. AS sometimes I have doubts about whether I want to keeping doing this or not. You dont beat about the bush and if you think I'm shit then you are probably right lol.

Paul

wow thanks mate, coming from someone as talented as you that means alot, as budget wise I have struggled over the years and had to give alot up for something I believe in and so far its paying off just not in a massive way yet.

but thanks rob

You said:

"You may find 'spitting in a girls face' or 'Hard arse slapping' ..........Oh sorry, but you wrote this yourself!

You proudly describe your product as , "Extreme" so presumably, you depict extreme acts of sexual behaviour towards women. So I take it, you don't hand out boxes of Terry's All Gold and bunches of flowers to the girls in your films.

You don't seem to understand the difference, for a normal woman, that is, between the act of being "Spat at" and being in a consensual gang bang. Manky men or otherwise. By spitting in a woman's face, you are, by definition, abusing and humiliating her. Believe it or not, not all of us relish this idea, or feel we, "Deserve" it!

You seem to be from the school of thought that says, "All women are whores and a good slap never did them any harm" Am I wrong?

I have not seen your films, but I have seen other, so called, "Extreme" stuff and this seems to be the rigeur.

I see that bendover (according to several posts on this thread) is also going down this route and further alienating his already dwindling fan-base. Although I presume you are far more, "Extreme" in your work.

Incidentally, I thought that you'd retired?