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Re: Why can't British pornstars handle Rocco
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:10 pm
by ReneeRichards
I would love to handle rocco... I would hope to do a little more than just handle him too!!!
Bring it on rocco!!
xxx
Re: Why can't British pornstars handle Rocco
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:14 pm
by one eyed jack
Well said Kelly. I've read your points with interest in Desire a while back and it was refreshing to get a womans angle on it. I've met Rocco in person and can say he doesnt come across as an asshole at all. He strikes me as a man who can deal with a challenge if a lady was to throw down the gauntlet and I have heard from a few other women that the only reason they did porn in the first place was to work with the Roc star.
Some performers try to do the aggression thing like Rocco but it comes off as a cheap hustle and looks misogynistic, I don't think his spectacular displays are fuelled by a hatred for women at all but by a passion and desire even, that's primal. Iknow this when I see it and any guy who doesnt recognise it obviously can't fuck to this degree and intensity which is what makes him stand out in a sea of performers in a class all his own.
Besides, I don't hear many women complaining. Only men. Lets face it, the type of women who don't want to work with Rocco don't want to do anything that spectacular anyway which often puts it down to laziness and a bad attitude on some models side. Did you come to fuck or just look pretty? Being pretty just isnt enough anymore. Show me your fuck face!
Renee, I'm pretty damn sure you can handle Rocco and if he does anything to you you don't like, do it back. I've seen him take as good as he gives. But be careful of entering..."The Zone"
You may enter a level of sexual consciousness within yourself that you will find hard to equal. I think Kelly knows what I'm talking about.
Re: Why can't British pornstars handle Rocco
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:04 am
by Keith
Some time ago my wife copied a post from ADT from a female porn fan
I apologise for not knowing the name of the original poster, but it pretty much sums up the feelings of every female porn fan I know (and most of the guys too).
"Rocco is half the reason I watch porn. After years of watching Vivid and Wicked flicks on VHS, I bought myself a copy of Fashionistas on DVD for Valentine's Day for my husband.
I don't care how old he is. No one does it for me like Rocco, period. I'm ruined for life when it comes to porn unless he seriously schools some new guy in the Ways of Rocco. Thank God for his huge catalog of DVD's available for sale.
"Oh yes nasty....more, more!"
Why Rocco? For many of the same reasons Renee stated. First of all, he fills the scene with so much, it's not just endless Viagra infused thrusting. He talks the whole time which I love. I love how he is rough yet somehow gentle at the same time. He just seems passionate to me, which is what most male performers are lacking in my opinion.
I think it was Animal Trainer 4 in the scene in France with Catherine Count and Amanda Angel, he is fucking her throat so hard that all her makeup has run down her tear and mascara stained cheeks. He looks her in the eye and tells her she is beautiful. How do you NOT love this guy??
After watching him In Rocco's Way to Love, his scene with Catherine Count was, to me, one of the hottest scenes ever. They both truly looked like they were seriously enjoying themselves. It's almost as if he taunts you to bring your A game to the set, then he gently guides you over the edge so you WANT to push your own limits, not only to please him, but to please yourself.
Rocco invades Poland, Rocco and Agnes. If there were more scenes like this one in porn, I think more women would run out and buy DVD's for themselves or for their significant others. There is so much going on in this scene and frankly, you almost have to watch it a few times to take it all in.
Our local video store has a rather limited selection. So we brought home In the Garden of Shadows by Ninn Worx the other day. In the first scene Anais keeps telling the guy she is with, "Harder! More! Spank me! Harder!" I remember thinking no matter how hard he tried, he was not going to satisfy this girl. Though when it was her turn to give a bj, she did the same half way job the guy gave her. I felt a sense of satisfaction in that! Thinking that Rocco would have made her want to go so deep all her black eyeliner would have been around her knees in an effort to please him the way he did her.
As I said, I am wrecked for life. There is porn, good porn, then there is Rocco, in my book."
If someone could point me in the direction of a UK guy who can deliver the kind of passion that is talked about above I'd have work for him.
Keith
Re: Why can't British pornstars handle Rocco
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:32 pm
by one eyed jack
A very informative post there Keith. Do you know a lot of performers don't watch porn? I had to school a couple of guys that didnt know some things were possible. I dont mean just watch porn for the sake of watching it for entertainment but watch it to draw something from it. You'd be surprised the amount of guys who watch Rocco just don't get it.
There are some UK guys that have the potential and one of them actually works with Rocco now. Jazz Duro.
Manufactured....
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:57 pm
by JackHorny
Absolutely agree....
A few of us touched on this a while back... Most producers I have worked for have been rather "predictable" in what they want... formulaic sex moving through pre-determined positions culminating in the obligatory facial cumshot (in the vast majority of cases)... This formulaic approach sells and has sold well so the formulaic approach is perpetuated.
I think, Kelly, you're absolutely right... I think it was Kym and I that touchedon this thing - there are times when a director should just sit back and let the cameras roll - appropriate at times when performers "click" - of course, there will always be times when a director will NEED to cut in and "direct" but I'd really like to be given more af a "free reign" when clearly "clicking" with a girl....
Re: Why can't British pornstars handle Rocco
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 7:28 am
by Keith
Hi Terry,
I suspect you're right about a lot of performers not watching porn, although I think it's also true of some producers / directors / editors too
To some extent it's not surprising ... it does take the edge off your hard-on a little, when you're looking at camera angles, lighting, editing transitions etc. rather than the action in front of the camera
) But that's why, for me as a consumer as well as a producer, the action has to have some passion that makes me forget all that other stuff.
I noticed the post from Jazz earlier on when I was re-reading this original thread. I can't say that I've seen him in action; the only recent Rocco movie that I've watched with Brits in is Rocco Ravishes Ibiza - was he in that? Working with Rocco is in itself not necessarily a recommendation - for every Manuel Ferrara or Nacho Vidal that he's groomed, there are half a dozen Kid Jamaicas who I have to watch with the ff button.
And I suspect the guys who don't get Rocco are the ones who are not themselves terribly successful with women
Wanted to talk to you last Saturday at the bgafd party, but every time I tried you were engrossed in conversation. Can I mail you off the forum? (I was there with Sasha).
Keith
Re: Why can't British pornstars handle Rocco
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:54 am
by one eyed jack
Of course you can Keith. Email me privately on my profile.
Just to add to your point, yes, I forgot to mention the camera men, editors etc. Tut-tut, judging everyone by my own standards again.
Again a very valid point. Some producers, directors and editors should watch alot of porn so that they can differentiate between good and bad porn. I know its subjective but the best porn is always when you can see what you bloody well bought it for in the first place...To see the essential body parts in action! There's far too much product I've seen where the girl was supposed to be having a length in her pussy or arse and I just couldnt see it. i thought it was a soft version!
Documenting passion is one thing but filming the dynamics of sex in detail rates just above on the R18 scale for me. Theres nothing more frustrating than seeing some blokes hair arse going up and down and his hairy balls swinging around like punchbags. Makes me think I'm at the gym! (blapadapadapadapa!)
Re: Why can't British pornstars handle Rocco
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:02 am
by one eyed jack
And I suspect the guys who don't get Rocco are the ones who are not themselves terribly successful with women
I share this thought to. I usually find critics of Rocco prefer their sex with women a bit more vanilla, and for some, may not be that interested in sex really anyway. Its just another biological function to be dealt with in a perfunctory way. Each to their own I suppose.
As far as I'm concerned, good porn should have the energy and spectacular dynamics parallel to The Matrix. Even better if its fuelled with passion. It is actually hard to document on video but I am trying and feel I have come close a number of times, the rest is sleight of hand in the editing.
Re: Why can't British pornstars handle Rocco
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:50 am
by one eyed jack
Someone just asked me if this post was a joke, y'know like Why did the chicken cross the road? So the punchline would be...? Answers on a post card to the usual address.
Re: Why can't British pornstars handle Rocco
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:17 am
by Keith
Terry,
You will have mail later today
Keith