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This is getting boring. I'll run a little scenario by you. A headless person is found in the street. The authorities pick it up and take it to a morgue (the place they put dead people in). Now we go onto the street and ask 100 people with no medical training and we explain what they are going to see. We then take them to the morgue and let them see a person without a head. How many people would you expect to call the person alive ?

Because you aren't a doctor or a coroner.

You seem very well informed Sammy boy. Maybe you could explain it to me. Then I'll tell you where I disagree.

Once again Dick, how many headless corpses have you had to deal with?

Officialdom adopts all sorts of crazy and long-winded terminology, nothing to do with political correctness. You're just mixing that up with "officialspeak".

How often have you heard a copper making a statement and come out with something like "I was perambulating along the principle thoroughfare of this municipality, when I happened to take cognisance of the time". Bit of an exaggeration maybe, but perhaps you see what I'm getting at. Fuck-all to do with political correctness. Officialspeak. Nothing more. "Deceased persons", "fatalities" and "casualties" are other words commonly used in these situations. Is that "political correctness" as well?

And in the scenario you outline in your last post, it still remains true that none of your 100 people off the street would be able to legally declare your hypothetical headless corpse dead. That would still have to be done by a doctor.

I've been lucky and never had to deal with a headless corpse. But to get back to the point, I've never stated that I could declare anybody legally dead but in a triage situation the person without a head would be at the end of the queue. So I'll ask you a simple question.If you found somebody without a head, would you class them as dead or alive? Easy question, all you need to say is dead or alive.

So all this headless stuff relates to a completely hypothetical situation then Dick, and not one that you are ever likely to encounter in the real world. Thought as much.

It's as if it's going in one ear and straight out the other with you. I already answered that 'easy question' in my 3rd post in this thread. As I said then, no-one is disagreeing with you that they are dead. Obviously. So why do you keep banging on about headless corpses? It's totally irrelevant.

The point at issue is not whether a person without a head is "dead" or not. The point at issue is whether you being "made" (as you claim) to use the word "non survivor" rather than "dead" is (according to you) political correctness gone mad, or is (according to everyone else) simply a matter of policy relating to liability and competence issues. Why can't you grasp that? God knows it's simple enough. But as Sam quite rightly says, you don't seem to be able to tell the difference between the two.

I see I'm wasting my time.You have your view and I have mine. So if you're unfortunate enough to find a dead person (not necessarlly from a missing head) feel free to phone the relations and tell them they will be home in 10 minutes.

Like I said, in one ear out the other ....