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Community leaders or as we used to call them busybodies.

A lot of yobs will turn up for the "vigil" not because they knew Duggan but in the hope that there will be a punch-up and they can thump a copper.

The organisation at the Lawrence enquiry was the Nation of Islam whose members at one time included Malcolm X and Muhammad Ali. They believe that the white man is the devil created in a laboratory by a mad scientist. They also advocate racial separation.

Ah, good old Jesse Jackson ? never met a microphone or camera he didn't like or a bandwagon he couldn't climb on to.

The police enforce the law not justice as if this was the case they would have hauled the scum from the car and shot him without any pretence as this would be justice for the life's his blighted from his direct and indirect actions while profiting from crime.

Lol..what a prick Dugan was referring to the police as "Feds" what a jacked up little chav.

"All the things I've said have been said by Police "

Must be true then.

"I suppose if we are in the business of viewing someone as basically a choir boy "

Have I said he was a choir boy anywhere? Please state where.

"If the authorities did what you seem to want them to do then they'd never nick anyone or pursue anyone and the streets of our cities would be much more dangerous than they already are."

This is nonsense and has no connection whatsoever with my views.

"As far as I am aware, it has not been disproved that he had been handling a gun not long before he was shot.

Why would the fingerprint of this fine upstanding citizen be found on a gun?"

This is incorrect. Forensics found no trace of Duggan's DNA or fingerprints on the gun or sock in which it was contained. Tests found no gunshot residue on Duggan's hands or waistband.

"Again as far as I am aware, neither Ian Tomlinson nor Andrew Mitchell had been seen sporting a firearm before they were killed and framed respectively."

Now you are being silly. My point is about police either being economical with the truth or fabricating evidence. It is hardly unknown is it?

"What's the betting that when all the facts are revealed, when all the shouting is done Mark Duggan will be revealed to be the lowlife scumbag that we (well apart from a certain someone) assume and believe him to be?"

To repeat as far as I know he could have killed more people than Harold Shipman. That is not the point. We can all surmise away or like Max live in a cosy little world where what the police say must be true because they are the police.

What is my point is that personally I could do without the police being judge, jury and executioner. And given the police seem so certain that he was a gangster and that there were over 30 police following him on that day, it is extremely unfortunate, to say the least, that they were unable to arrest and charge Duggan.

After all Max, the police are not infallible. Ask the family of Jean Charles de Menezes who had his brains blown out by the Met at Stockwell tube station.

David Johnson wrote:

> "As far as I am aware, it has not been disproved that he had
> been handling a gun not long before he was shot.
>
> Why would the fingerprint of this fine upstanding citizen be
> found on a gun?"
>
> This is incorrect. Forensics found no trace of Duggan's DNA or
> fingerprints on the gun or sock in which it was contained.
> Tests found no gunshot residue on Duggan's hands or waistband.
>
Did Duggan have a gun?
Yes. The jury ruled unanimously that Duggan was carrying a gun in the back of the minicab. He picked up the converted pistol ? contained in a shoebox ? from drug dealer Kevin Hutchinson-Foster 12 minutes before the fatal shots were fired.

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This is a completely different point. I find it hilarious that you merely skate over the fact that your statement that Duggan's fingerprint was found on the gun is bollocks.

Either way, the police should not be acting as judge, jury and executioner of unarmed people.

To help your understanding of this matter with regard to whether he was "armed" or not, since you quote the jury verdict in the inquest....

The Jury, in a majority of 9:1, concluded that Mark Duggan threw the firearm onto the grass. Of the 9, 8 have concluded that it is more likely than not, that
Mark Duggan threw the firearm as soon as the minicab came to a stop and prior to any officers being on the pavement.

8 out of 10 were sure that he did not have a gun in his hand when he was shot.

Like I said, the police should not be acting as judge, jury and executioner.

You may wish to score political points, I don't find it "hilarious" that some violent thug was loose on the streets of London with a gun.

Of course the important statistic from the 8 out of 10 thought he didn't have a gun in his hand is that 2 out if 10 thought HE DID and one of them took a split second decision based in his duty to protect the public, officers and finally himself not to fill the quota of how Many black people I have to shoot which the same old intrest groups appear to believe.