Boogie Nights..........

[Marino]

I watched Boogie Nights years ago and even then I thought my time in the adult entertainment industry has been far more exciting then that.
And a lot more fun.

[one eyed jack]

TH I think you should be very careful about making such general sweeping comments.

I wouldnt say that authenticity was the purpose of that movie either because it wasnt sold as a documentary and all the characters were fictional anyway. I just said it was a great movie that wasnt unrealistic with how it dealt with its subject matter.

Ultimately, movies have artistic license with how it entertains its audience. Its documentaries that have to be careful with the truth.

Cinema relies heavily on being polished and glossy and entertaining as part of the world its trying to draw you in on a story so I would always go into a darkened theatre expecting to suspend belief for a couple of hours because that is and always has been the nature of cinema

I certainly wouldnt accuse all americans of believing the fictional worlds created by cinema.

[one eyed jack]

Oliver Stone is an asshole now??? What heresy doth burn my ears!!!!

Fair enough you didnt like The Doors but to a guy like me who was only familiar with a couple of their main songs the movie totally turned me on to the band and one only has to listen to their music to realise that they and Jim Morrison were musical geniuses ahead of their time.

Who says americans beleive all that stuff? if I remember right, Stone was under attack by americans for the innaccuracy and assumptions he made doing the film which he is convinced is right but then, hey, its his movie.

I didnt watch it for a history lesson. It was an all star cast, big John Williams score so the whole hting was style over content to me and as a piece of entertainemnt, worked in that it was all someones own ideas and opinions other than an actual documentary.

Are we to beleive that watching Quentin Tarantinos Inglorious Basterds that Hitler was assassinated during a film premiere then? !laugh!

I think even americans know that movies are all about entertainment and shouldnt take them too seriously. Not even the greatest one of them all: Saving Private Ryan which is why all the movies start off by saying:

Based on a true story

This legally allows creative license

[one eyed jack]

"American cinema is well known for telling its audience how to feel"

Therefore you are implying that americans in general have no mind to think for themselves. I dont think american cinema tells you how to feel at all. Everyone will look at a movie and draw from it what they will ie youre supposed to be say "aaah" when seeing something cute or if you hate such things cute it wil be pukey. See? Thats subjective.

"but Stone had to manipulate facts for no reason at all really"

A good reason is screen time. He probably didnt deem it worthy of expanding on with regards the films pacing. I think it was longer than it shouldve been actually. Quicker to whip the dick out than have someone in the audience say it- who knows? I dont think the accuracy of such things is important where a movie based on the book where the main character is played by a hollywood actor is concerned

I htink of bio pics as a tribute tothe person it is about more than the accuracy of history telling it. Spike Lee flouted details for pacing with Malcolm X. The reality of Malcolm Xs life wa sa lot grimmer which is why the film should be a companion to the book which should be more accurate than a movie told inside 3 hours.

You should just watch Boogie Nights as a movie and relax a bit. You might enjoy it for what it is. I htink Boogie Nights has done more justice to the outsider looking in on porn than TV has done with its biased viewpoint on the subject.

I went to see X Men First Class last night and thought it was well written, engaging and highly entertaining nonsense with people. politics and super powers set in the 40's and 60's. It also had JFK in it too and took liberties with the Cuban Missile Crisis (implying mutants were behind starting world war 3)....I havent heard any americans stating this as true yet but if I subscribe to your way of thinking that americans are told to feel this way then I should expect some american person to pipe this up at some point.

[jimslip]

I take it that neither did you work in the US porn industry in the 1970's, so you are not qualified to rubbish the views of others, who may have been a little more intimate with the way of life over there at the time than you are. I would wager that having lived in LA for many years and worked in porn, Mr Thring is far more qualified than you are, to evaluate whether the "Overall tone" of a picture like Boogie Nights is generally accurate or not.

You are disappointed that the film depicted a tone of general disappointment , sadness and failure in the porn industry at the time. Did you not notice that the whole film is based on the collapse of the "Old school" of porn and it's hierachy , during the transition from film to video?

It shows how previously, there was art and technical talent required to make movies and then overnight anyone with a camcorder could get in on the action. The money therefore dried up for big porn movies (For a time). The film is a good, albeit depressing portrayal of the swansong of 1970's porn.

This (In my opinion) is what the whole film is about. There is a similar tone about nowadays, with the explosion of pirated free porn on the internet and the collapse of DVD sales.