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Re: Paedophile?

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:52 pm
by Jacques
So we all pander to censorship by fear?


Re: Paedophile?

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:11 pm
by one eyed jack
What is the point here talking about kiddy fiddlers. theres nothing to debate here surely?


Re: Paedophile?

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:27 pm
by Deuce Bigolo
Not in the broad way you ask as this was an arranged marriage
socially acceptable in its day

Using terminology from the modern era to label a figure from the past
doesnt work for me

Re: Paedophile?

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:08 am
by Robches
Deuce Bigolo wrote:

> Not in the broad way you ask as this was an arranged marriage
> socially acceptable in its day
>
> Using terminology from the modern era to label a figure from
> the past
> doesnt work for me

It does when the man in question is held by a billion people to be God's Prophet. Everything Mohammed did was good as far as they are concerned. Muslims can't criticise Mohammed, so if he had a child bride, several wives or owned slaves, then they have to accept that fact. He could do no wrong, therefore it is not wrong to do these things. Note, not "not wrong" then, but "not wrong" now, or ever.

Thus the behaviour of a 7th century Arab merchant, which might well have been quite usual for his time, are foisted on us, because Islam is unable to move forward. The Koran is the unalterable word of God, so if God says an adulteress should be stoned to death, that's what happens in states with Islamic law. They cannot develop and they cannot change, unless they stop being Islamic states.


Re: Paedophile?

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:46 am
by videokim
We have all been ruled by religion since day one e.g pubs, shops opening times & holidays & in Islamic eyes our western religions has its faults as well. Its wrong to slate a religion & in a time when America are on a hate a muslim campaign yes certain censorships have to come into action from goverments to protect ethnic people. My Uncles wife & family are muslim and suffer from abuse & people spitting at them in Ilford just because of the colour of their skin, because crazy arseholes like Bush & his father these people do live in fear & the only thing they have left intact e.g. their religion which is under attack from the west & this forum it seems. Over the years i have helped the police break up Paedophile rings (one from inside the industry itself) so i would not think twice to shop anyone if i thought kids were in danger but to slate an Holy figure who as been dead for years is very sad. We tend to overlook the way a lot Catholic priests are allowed to be kiddy fiddlers & its covered up by the church to protect their own. All religions have or have had a dark side & like us Islamic people choose to look after their children & protect them from Paedophiles in the west or east.
So to answer your question is it censorship by fear or because we fail to have respect for anyone but ourselves.

Kim

Re: Paedophile?

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:10 pm
by steve56
Theres good/bad all over no ones the same i have no interest in religion or politics .videokim wrote:

> We have all been ruled by religion since day one e.g pubs,
> shops opening times & holidays & in Islamic eyes our western
> religions has its faults as well. Its wrong to slate a religion
> & in a time when America are on a hate a muslim campaign yes
> certain censorships have to come into action from goverments to
> protect ethnic people. My Uncles wife & family are muslim and
> suffer from abuse & people spitting at them in Ilford just
> because of the colour of their skin, because crazy arseholes
> like Bush & his father these people do live in fear & the only
> thing they have left intact e.g. their religion which is under
> attack from the west & this forum it seems. Over the years i
> have helped the police break up Paedophile rings (one from
> inside the industry itself) so i would not think twice to shop
> anyone if i thought kids were in danger but to slate an Holy
> figure who as been dead for years is very sad. We tend to
> overlook the way a lot Catholic priests are allowed to be kiddy
> fiddlers & its covered up by the church to protect their own.
> All religions have or have had a dark side & like us Islamic
> people choose to look after their children & protect them from
> Paedophiles in the west or east.
> So to answer your question is it censorship by fear or because
> we fail to have respect for anyone but ourselves.
>
> Kim

Re: Paedophile?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:57 am
by jeffhaskeft
how old was mohammed when he married his child bride? just curious about this


also it wasn't that long ago that it was totally legal for the gentry of our (better than thou) land to have their wicked way with the poorer classes at a very young age

Re: Paedophile?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:30 pm
by one eyed jack
I hear you Jeff. In fact I was watching a programme a while back that said it wasnt uncommon back in the 18th century for young teenge girls to die of their stds as well as pregnancies between the ages of 12 and 15

Hoow depressing is that?

As for the Mohammed and child bride thing I find it ironic how someone could be the cornerstone of anybodys faith and I'm sure thats what Mike was getting at.

I just think the point he was making was ill timed hot on the path of his other post about rape and his opinion of it.

An incendiary topic for sure. I wonder waht precipitated it?

Was you drinking at the time Mike?


Re: Paedophile?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:04 pm
by Pervert
One Eyed Jack wrote: "I just think the point he was making was ill timed hot on the path of his other post about rape and his opinion of it.

An incendiary topic for sure. I wonder waht precipitated it?"

Perhaps you were forgetting this, Terry:

freeman

Or was that another thread you didn't bother reading because it was too big? If I, or Mr Slater, or Ace, or any other ordinary punter had posted that, we'd have been chased off this site as sleazy, creepy, odious paedos. Obviously, different rules apply to "erotic artists"