yes jj,ive witnessed it in ordinary life so to speak.
The good thing about this topic is that with 39 replies,Mels name is not forgotten?
Some peeps have short memories,I dont so I will try to find the lates news on her.I WILL KEEP YOU POSTED
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"The doubling of her sentence by Baroness Scotland was to prove a point against the industry IMO.
Just hope MEL comes out without any bitterness but wouldnt blame her if she did.Maybe if she had got a better brief,she would have been advised not to appeal."
You seem to be busily inventing an alternative history here. First of all, it wasn't Baroness Scotland who increased the original sentence, it was the Court Of Appeal. Baroness Scotland merely referred the case to the Court Of Appeal for their consideration. Secondly, Melissa Walker did not appeal as you claim. As already stated, the Court Of Appeal heard the case because the Attorney General (Baroness Scotland) appealed against the sentence. Thirdly, the original sentence was very lenient for what she was convicted of, bearing in mind that she came very close to killing someone, so it wasn't any surprise that it got increased on appeal. She fact that she stabbed him twice was a big problem as the second stab did not appear necessary for the self-defence motive she claimed. The original lenient sentence always appeared hard to justify, hence the appeal. Two and a half years for very nearly killing someone? Whether you think she was innocent or not is nether here nor there. It's what she was convicted of that is relevant to the sentence.
Just hope MEL comes out without any bitterness but wouldnt blame her if she did.Maybe if she had got a better brief,she would have been advised not to appeal."
You seem to be busily inventing an alternative history here. First of all, it wasn't Baroness Scotland who increased the original sentence, it was the Court Of Appeal. Baroness Scotland merely referred the case to the Court Of Appeal for their consideration. Secondly, Melissa Walker did not appeal as you claim. As already stated, the Court Of Appeal heard the case because the Attorney General (Baroness Scotland) appealed against the sentence. Thirdly, the original sentence was very lenient for what she was convicted of, bearing in mind that she came very close to killing someone, so it wasn't any surprise that it got increased on appeal. She fact that she stabbed him twice was a big problem as the second stab did not appear necessary for the self-defence motive she claimed. The original lenient sentence always appeared hard to justify, hence the appeal. Two and a half years for very nearly killing someone? Whether you think she was innocent or not is nether here nor there. It's what she was convicted of that is relevant to the sentence.
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Not as I read it.
Still,we all have our thoughts on the matter.Why did the Court of Appeal decide to ask BS to look at it?
Why do so many other cases go unchallenged after a sentence has been passed?What was so special about Melissas case?It just does not add up.....
And you dont think that if she had been a factory worker,then it would have made a difference?Come on man,get real,how much of this was influenced by what Mel had done for a living?
I am new on here but I assume you are in the industry,so I find your attitude strange,given that Melissa put forward good character references which made no fucking difference.
Have you had issues with her personally?
I have in ,25 years,never had an issue with any escort or porn star. About 12 girls on Realpunting ive seen have been great company.
What I cant grasp is why people are so quick to throw stones at the vulnerable.My mrs is a solicitor..in different circumstances I would ask her opinion but its a delicate matter.
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Still,we all have our thoughts on the matter.Why did the Court of Appeal decide to ask BS to look at it?
Why do so many other cases go unchallenged after a sentence has been passed?What was so special about Melissas case?It just does not add up.....
And you dont think that if she had been a factory worker,then it would have made a difference?Come on man,get real,how much of this was influenced by what Mel had done for a living?
I am new on here but I assume you are in the industry,so I find your attitude strange,given that Melissa put forward good character references which made no fucking difference.
Have you had issues with her personally?
I have in ,25 years,never had an issue with any escort or porn star. About 12 girls on Realpunting ive seen have been great company.
What I cant grasp is why people are so quick to throw stones at the vulnerable.My mrs is a solicitor..in different circumstances I would ask her opinion but its a delicate matter.
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cannot find anything on the press reports to say she stabbed him twice but from what came out in court she'd certainly taken some earlier beatings from this lowlife.
I would add again that the first trial Nov 06 reached no verdict, so that jury couldn't decide. Whilst it seems some contributors on here think she should be in for life I am sure many feel she was very, very unlucky with the verdict/sentence or more precisely the second sentence.
As said already, think she had rubbish defence team and many think a decent team could have got it reduced or verdict overturned on appeal.Wonder if she was in custody all the time before first and second trials, if so sometimes this time can be taken off the sentence but no mention anywhere about this.
seems she was shit out of luck all round , consider this, Melissa was sentenced to 2.5 yrs on 21/6/07, apparently baroness scotland gets appointed 28/6/07 and promptly is involved in nigh doubling the sentence,can't help but feel that melissa was the victim of someone determined to make an impression.
I would add again that the first trial Nov 06 reached no verdict, so that jury couldn't decide. Whilst it seems some contributors on here think she should be in for life I am sure many feel she was very, very unlucky with the verdict/sentence or more precisely the second sentence.
As said already, think she had rubbish defence team and many think a decent team could have got it reduced or verdict overturned on appeal.Wonder if she was in custody all the time before first and second trials, if so sometimes this time can be taken off the sentence but no mention anywhere about this.
seems she was shit out of luck all round , consider this, Melissa was sentenced to 2.5 yrs on 21/6/07, apparently baroness scotland gets appointed 28/6/07 and promptly is involved in nigh doubling the sentence,can't help but feel that melissa was the victim of someone determined to make an impression.
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"Why did the Court of Appeal decide to ask BS to look at it?"
You're not paying attention. The Attorney General appeals against the sentence and the matter goes to the Court Of Appeal, not the other way around.
The original sentence was much less than is usually given for almost killing someone and that was the reason for the referral to the Court Of Appeal. It was nothing to do with her previous occupation, it was simply a routine referral because the sentence appeared to be unusually lenient.
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"consider this, Melissa was sentenced to 2.5 yrs on 21/6/07, apparently baroness scotland gets appointed 28/6/07 and promptly is involved in nigh doubling the sentence,can't help but feel that melissa was the victim of someone determined to make an impression."
No, I'm afraid not. It was a routine referral because the trial judge had not followed the sentencing guidelines and had been very lenient. It wouldn't have made any difference who the Attorney General was at the time, as a lenient sentence like that was always going to get appealed.
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The incident happened on 19/11/05 so she had to endure 2 trials and wait for nigh 2 yrs before the final sentence got passed. Attended uni in London then moved to Hove, then started work as a stripper and developed a drugs habit hence move into porn to finance it? Discussed at the time on many of my local southcoast forums linked to adult themes of porn,escorts, lap dancing etc and a fair few who knew of this bloke said its a pity she didn't kill him. She made some bad choices in life but getting involved with this bloke was probably the worst.He had to be revived 3 times so perhaps, in someway she was lucky, if she'd killed him look at the sentence she would have got.
Don't think she was held on remand awaiting these trials so no chance such timescale counting as time served.
She's in York prison I think, possibly made one failed appeal and seemingly not interested in another or any campaigns to free her. Will she come back to porn, i very much doubt it. Whatever happened to Karina Clarke, she never came back did she and probably served less than a year?
Don't think she was held on remand awaiting these trials so no chance such timescale counting as time served.
She's in York prison I think, possibly made one failed appeal and seemingly not interested in another or any campaigns to free her. Will she come back to porn, i very much doubt it. Whatever happened to Karina Clarke, she never came back did she and probably served less than a year?
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a very good post Kyle.
Lets hope shes ok when she comes out..........some of us have proved we havent forgotten her.
And with computers in prison,she may be reading all this lol
Lets hope shes ok when she comes out..........some of us have proved we havent forgotten her.
And with computers in prison,she may be reading all this lol
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"He had to be revived 3 times so perhaps, in someway she was lucky, if she'd killed him look at the sentence she would have got."
Exactly correct Kyle Richmond.
The current tariff for knife murder is a life sentence with a minimum of 15 years.
I suspect she'd have got a bit knocked off since the victim was violent towards her, but in the eyes of the law you're supposed to leave a violent partner, not stab him to death, so I doubt if she'd have got much of a reduction.
If he'd died, I think she'd have got 12 years minimum if she was lucky or more likely 14.
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Theres one thing about all this.
Its invoked some fucking good debate.
48 posts and counting(no pun intended)
Its invoked some fucking good debate.
48 posts and counting(no pun intended)
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